Boxed parabolas

Calculus Level 2

Two parabolas (in blue) intersect at two points. The four tangent lines (in red) at their points of intersection form a 3 × 4 3\times 4 rectangle. Find the area of the closed region created by both parabolas.

Find the area of the region bounded by the 2 curves. Find the area of the region bounded by the 2 curves.


The answer is 8.

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4 solutions

Jon Haussmann
Feb 14, 2018

Take two points on a parabola, and draw the tangents to the parabola at these points. Then the area of the parabolic segment is equal to 2/3 the area of the triangle formed by the two points and the intersection of the tangents.

Hence, the area is simply 2 / 3 12 = 8 2/3 \cdot 12 = 8 .

Moderator note:

This is known as the Archimedes Triangle; he was the first to prove the theorem cited above.

The proof is fairly lengthly, although you can read it here . (Note: External link.)

The general idea is to break the "unfilled" portion of the parabola into triangles (as shown above); then break the remaining portion into more triangles; then break the remaining portion after that into more triangles, and so on.

This gets the infinite sum

1 2 ( 1 + 1 4 + ( 1 4 ) 2 + ( 1 4 ) 3 + ) . \frac{1}{2} \left ( 1 + \frac{1}{4} + \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)^2 + \left(\frac{1}{4}\right)^3 + \cdots \right) .

Using the infinite geometric series formula on the inside of the parentheses gets a value of 4 3 , \frac{4}{3} , so the entire expression comes out to be equal to 2 3 . \frac{2}{3} .

"Take two points on a parabola, and draw the tangents to the parabola at these points. Then the area of the parabolic segment is equal to 2/3 the area of the triangle formed by the two points and the intersection of the tangents." It may be true, but a proof of this lemma should have been provided! Good job, anyways!

Alexandre Gomes - 3 years, 3 months ago

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This link has a proof of the lemma: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The Quadrature of the Parabola

Alex Kulczycki - 3 years, 3 months ago

Could you explain why it’s 2/3?

Lee Isaac - 3 years, 3 months ago

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I added a note with a brief summary and link to the proof.

Jason Dyer Staff - 3 years, 3 months ago

This is a slightly different case. The triangle is created by chord and tangents rather than chord and a point on a parabola. Wikipedia article on Quadrature of the parabola

Maria Kozlowska - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Maria, you might be focusing on the intersection points of the original diagram (lower right and upper left); this solution focuses on the lower left and upper right corners which have the chords as shown.

Jason Dyer Staff - 3 years, 3 months ago

The ratio of area of the triangle formed by 3 chords to that formed by drawing tangents at endpoints of the chords is 1/2 So the question is how did the area of the triangle you just shown is twice the area of the triangle formed by the the tangents and the chord?

Arijit Dey - 3 years, 3 months ago
Joseph Newton
Feb 14, 2018

Instead of finding a parabola to fit a box, I'm going to start with a parabola and put a box around it.

The parabola will be of the form x 2 = 4 a y x^2=4ay , so that any point on the parabola can be expressed in the parametric form P = ( 2 a p , a p 2 ) P=(2ap,ap^2) where p p is a parameter. From this, we know a bunch of important equations, which can be proven fairly easily:

  • The equation of the chord between the points P ( 2 a p , a p 2 ) P(2ap,ap^2) and Q ( 2 a q , a q 2 ) Q(2aq,aq^2) is y = 1 2 ( p + q ) x a p q y=\frac{1}{2}(p+q)x-apq
  • The equation of the tangent to the parabola at a point P is y = p x + a p 2 y=px+ap^2
  • The coordinates of the intersection of the tangents at points P and Q is T ( a ( p + q ) , a p q ) T(a(p+q),apq)
  • If the chord PQ is a focal chord (i.e. passes through the point ( 0 , a ) (0,a) ), then p q = 1 pq=-1
  • Combining the two statements above, if the chord PQ is a focal chord then the intersection of the tangents of P and Q is ( a ( p + q ) , a ) (a(p+q),-a)

Using this we can find values of a a , p p and q q so that the tangents are of length 3 and 4 and meet at right angles. So we need to know the distance from each point on the parabola to the intersection of the tangents. distance = ( x 2 x 1 ) 2 + ( y 2 y 1 ) 2 \text{distance}=\sqrt{(x_2-x_1)^2+(y_2-y_1)^2} P T = ( 2 a p a ( p + q ) ) 2 + ( a p 2 + a ) 2 Q T = ( 2 a q a ( p + q ) ) 2 + ( a q 2 + a ) 2 = a 2 ( p q ) 2 + a 2 ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 = a 2 ( q p ) 2 + a 2 ( q 2 + 1 ) 2 = a ( p q ) 2 + ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 = a ( q p ) 2 + ( q 2 + 1 ) 2 But p q = 1 , so q = 1 p P T = a ( p + 1 p ) 2 + ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 Q T = a ( 1 p p ) 2 + ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) 2 = a 1 p 2 ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 + ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 = a p 2 ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) 2 + ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) 2 = a ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) = a ( p 2 + 1 ) ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) 2 \begin{aligned}PT&=\sqrt{(2ap-a(p+q))^2+(ap^2+a)^2}&QT&=\sqrt{(2aq-a(p+q))^2+(aq^2+a)^2}\\ &=\sqrt{a^2(p-q)^2+a^2(p^2+1)^2}&&=\sqrt{a^2(q-p)^2+a^2(q^2+1)^2}\\ &=a\sqrt{(p-q)^2+(p^2+1)^2}&&=a\sqrt{(q-p)^2+(q^2+1)^2}\\ &&\text{But }pq=-1,\text{so }q=-\frac{1}{p}\\ PT&=a\sqrt{\left(p+\frac{1}{p}\right)^2+(p^2+1)^2}&QT&=a\sqrt{\left(-\frac{1}{p}-p\right)^2+\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)^2}\\ &=a\sqrt{\frac{1}{p^2}(p^2+1)^2+(p^2+1)^2}&&=a\sqrt{p^2\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)^2+\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)^2}\\ &=a\sqrt{(p^2+1)^2\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)}&&=a\sqrt{(p^2+1)\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)^2}\end{aligned} Now we simply let PT=3 and QT=4 and solve simultaneously for a a and p p a ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) = 3 ( 1 ) a ( p 2 + 1 ) ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) 2 = 4 ( 2 ) ( 1 ) ÷ ( 2 ) \begin{aligned}a\sqrt{(p^2+1)^2\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)}=3&&(1)\\a\sqrt{(p^2+1)\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)^2}=4&&(2)\\(1)÷(2)\end{aligned} ( p 2 + 1 ) 2 ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) ( p 2 + 1 ) ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) 2 = 3 4 ( p 2 + 1 ) ( 1 p 2 + 1 ) = 9 16 p 2 ( p 2 + 1 ) ( 1 + p 2 ) = 9 16 substitute p into ( 1 ) p 2 = 9 16 a ( ( 3 4 ) 2 + 1 ) 2 ( ( 4 3 ) 2 + 1 ) = 3 p = 3 4 a = 144 125 \begin{aligned}\sqrt{\frac{(p^2+1)^2\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)}{(p^2+1)\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)^2}}&=\frac{3}{4}\\ \frac{(p^2+1)}{\left(\frac{1}{p^2}+1\right)}&=\frac{9}{16}\\ \frac{p^2(p^2+1)}{(1+p^2)}&=\frac{9}{16}&\text{substitute }p\text{ into }(1)\\ p^2&=\frac{9}{16}&a\sqrt{\left(\left(\frac{3}{4}\right)^2+1\right)^2\left(\left(\frac{4}{3}\right)^2+1\right)}&=3\\ p&=\frac{3}{4}\nearrow&a&=\frac{144}{125}\end{aligned} Now we can find the equation of both the parabola and the chord PQ, which we will need in a moment. x 2 = 4 a y y = 1 2 ( p + q ) x a p q y = x 2 4 a y = 1 2 ( p 1 p ) x + a y = 125 576 x 2 y = 7 24 x + 144 125 \begin{aligned}x^2=4ay&&y=\frac{1}{2}(p+q)x-apq\\ y=\frac{x^2}{4a}&&y=\frac{1}{2}\left(p-\frac{1}{p}\right)x+a\\ y=\frac{125}{576}x^2&&y=-\frac{7}{24}x+\frac{144}{125}\end{aligned} We can also get the x coordinates of the points P and Q, which we will use as the terminals of an integral to find the area. x 1 = 2 a p x 2 = 2 a q = 216 125 = 2 a p = 384 125 \begin{aligned}x_1&=2ap&x_2&=2aq\\ &=\frac{216}{125}&&=-\frac{2a}{p}\\ &&&=-\frac{384}{125}\end{aligned} Now we can finally put together an integral. The area we want is the curved shape shown here: The integral will simply be the equation of the chord minus the equation of the parabola, between the two points we worked out above: 384 125 216 125 ( 7 24 x + 144 125 125 576 x 2 ) d x = 4 \displaystyle\int_{-\frac{384}{125}}^\frac{216}{125}\left(-\frac{7}{24}x+\frac{144}{125}-\frac{125}{576}x^2\right)dx=4 This is easy to evaluate using the power rule, albeit with some annoying fractions, but you should end up with an answer of 4. This is only half the area we need though, as we get the shape above from cutting the rectangle along the diagonal, so the final answer will be 8 .

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sayantan mondal - 3 years, 3 months ago

Really the incarnate of Issac Newton

MAINAK CHAUDHURI - 3 years, 2 months ago
Nicola Mignoni
Feb 16, 2018

Let's consider the rectangle in the x y xy plane with ( 0 , 0 ) (0,0) , ( 3 , 0 ) (3,0) , ( 3 , 4 ) (3,4) , ( 0 , 4 ) (0,4) as vertices. We can find the parabola parametric equation using the Bèizer curve equation

c ( t ) = j = 0 2 ( 2 j ) t j ( 1 t ) 2 j p j \displaystyle c(t)=\sum_{j=0}^{2} \binom{2}{j}t^j(1-t)^{2-j}\vec{p}_j

where p 0 = ( 3 , 0 ) \vec{p}_0=(3,0) , p 1 = ( 0 , 0 ) \vec{p}_1=(0,0) , p 2 = ( 0 , 4 ) \vec{p}_2=(0,4) . Solving the equation we have

c ( t ) = ( 3 t 2 6 t + 3 , 4 t 2 ) c(t)=(3t^2-6t+3,4t^2) , t R t\in\mathbb{R} , t [ 0 , 1 ] t\in[0,1] .

Now, the area of the interested region can be considered as the difference between the area of the rectangle and the area of the two triangoloid in the picture. So we can write

A r e a = 12 2 1 0 4 t 2 ( 6 t 6 ) d t = 8 \displaystyle Area= 12-2\int_{1}^{0} 4t^2(6t-6)dt=8 .

The integral has been derived substituting f ( x ) = 4 t 2 f(x)=4t^2 and x = 3 t 2 6 t + 3 x=3t^2-6t+3 into a b f ( x ) d x \int_{a}^{b} f(x)dx . I inverted the integral index because the curve is traveled from ( 3 , 0 ) (3,0) to ( 0 , 4 ) (0,4) , otherwise, using 0 1 \int_{0}^{1} the triangoloid area would have been negative.

As you defined p 0, p 1, p 2 parametric function is c(t)=(3t^2,4t^2-8t+4), which is the same curva but defined inversly. I mean you had to say p 0=(3,0), p 1=(0,0), p 2=(0,4).

Pau Cantos - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Yes, you're right! I switched p0 and p2, thank you for reporting it!

Nicola Mignoni - 3 years, 3 months ago
Lance Kuanwu
Jun 13, 2018

I've got a cheating solution, making use of the format of the answer required being an integer. Look below and you will get it immediately. Basically you can see the integer that best fit this approximation is 8. Even if it was 7 or 9 you got 3 tries ;) .

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