Burglars and Detectives Part2 (Modified)

Logic Level 2

Only one of four people, Alice, Beto, Carl and Mini, stole the money from Ms. Doubtfire. She hires you as a consultant detective. After interrogating each of them, you have the following:

Alice \textbf{Alice} : Carl took the money. There was a forceful entry.

Carl \textbf{Carl} : If the window was open, then there wasn't a forceful entry.

Mini \textbf{Mini} The window was open. Carl is lying.

Beto \textbf{Beto} : Mini is lying. Alice is telling the truth.

You also know that every part of each statement that everyone said is either true or each part of their statement is false. Who took the money?

Alice Beto Carl Mini

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3 solutions

Saya Suka
Feb 26, 2021

Alice : Carl took the money. There was a forceful entry.
Carl : If the window was open, then there wasn't a forceful entry.
Mini : The window was open. Carl is lying.
Beto : Mini is lying. Alice is telling the truth.

1) We're told that these people are 100% honest or 100% deceitful.

2) By Beto's statement, since we don't know yet if Beto is trustworthy or not, then we have either a liar Mini and a truthful Alice OR a truthful Mini and a liar Alice.

3) Therefore, we might have at hand either one of these two possibilities :
a) a closed window AND a forceful entry, OR
b) an open window AND NOT a forced entry.

4) Either way, with both of the possible scenarios, Carl would still be telling the truth because he was using conditional statement of if P then Q, and we found out that his P and Q are of the same truth values, so Carl couldn't have lied with either (for P = Q = false ==> IPTQ = somehow still true, while for P = Q = true ==> IPTQ = also true).

5) In the end, Carl was truthful, Mini who accused him of being a liar was lying, Beto who called Mini as a liar out was truthful and Alice was truthful when she accused a truthful but guilty Carl.

Joshua Lowrance
Jan 26, 2019

This could be solved as a logical problem, determining who is telling the truth and who is lying (as @Jay B fantastically did), but I found a much easier way. There was only one accusation as to who took the money: Alice was the only one to say that someone took the money, and that someone was Carl. If Alice was lying, then we wouldn't have enough information to figure out who stole the money. However, there is an answer. So therefore, Carl took the money (I'm sorry I didn't solve this the normal way ;-))

Jay B
Jan 26, 2019

If Beto is telling the truth, then Alice is telling the truth, Mini is lying, and Carl is telling the truth. Then Carl would have taken the money. But if Beto is lying, then Mini is telling the truth. Then Carl is lying. Then the window was open but the entry was forceful. But this means that Alice told the truth. Therefore, Beto told the truth. This is impossible. Then Beto must be telling the truth.

Sorry to be critical again, but if Beto, Alice, and Carl are telling the truth and Mini is lying, (which is the only consistent logical scenario, as you point out), then Carl didn't take the money, as truth-telling Alice states. We're then left with no clues as to who actually did take the money. If Alice had instead stated that "Carl did take the money" then the answer would be Carl as posted.

Brian Charlesworth - 2 years, 4 months ago

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would you believe me if I say that I meant to write that Alice said that Carl took the money? lol. Thanks for notifying me.

Jay B - 2 years, 4 months ago

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Yup, I believe you! Typos happen. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 2 years, 4 months ago

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