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38 + 17 5 3 + 38 17 5 3 \large \sqrt[3]{38 + 17 \sqrt{5}} + \sqrt[3]{38 - 17\sqrt{5}}

Find the 2016th digit after the decimal point of the above number.


The answer is 0.

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Assuming ( a ± b 5 ) 3 = 38 ± 17 5 (a \pm b\sqrt 5)^3 = 38 \pm 17\sqrt 5 , where a a and b b are positive integers. Then, we have:

( a + b 5 ) 3 = 38 + 17 5 a 3 + 3 a 2 b 5 + 15 a b 2 + 5 b 3 5 = 38 + 17 5 \begin{aligned} (a + b\sqrt 5)^3 & = 38 + 17\sqrt 5 \\ a^3 + 3a^2b\sqrt 5 + 15ab^2 + 5b^3\sqrt 5 & = 38 + 17\sqrt 5 \end{aligned}

Equating the rational and irrational parts on both sides:

{ a 3 + 15 a b 2 = 38 3 a 2 b + 5 b 3 = 17 \begin{cases} a^3 + 15ab^2 = 38 \\ 3a^2b + 5b^3 =17 \end{cases}

We note that b b , a positive integer, can only be 1, that is b = 1 b=1 a = 2 \implies a=2 { 39 + 17 5 = ( 2 + 5 ) 3 39 17 5 = ( 2 5 ) 3 \implies \begin{cases} 39+17\sqrt 5= (2+\sqrt 5)^3 \\ 39-17\sqrt 5 = (2-\sqrt 5)^3 \end{cases} . Therefore, we have:

39 + 17 5 3 + 39 17 5 3 = ( 2 + 5 ) 3 3 + ( 2 5 ) 3 3 = 2 + 5 + 2 5 = 4 \begin{aligned} \sqrt[3]{39+17\sqrt 5} + \sqrt[3]{39-17\sqrt 5} & = \sqrt[3]{(2+\sqrt 5)^3} + \sqrt[3]{(2-\sqrt 5)^3} \\ & = 2+\sqrt 5 + 2-\sqrt 5 \\ & = 4 \end{aligned}

Therefore, the 2016th digit after the decimal point is 0 \boxed{0} .

Star Fall
Jul 5, 2016

Let A A denote the given number. Recalling that ( a + b ) 3 = a 3 + b 3 + 3 a b ( a + b ) (a+b)^3 = a^3 + b^3 + 3ab(a+b) and expanding A 3 A^3 , we get that A 3 = 76 3 A A^3 = 76 - 3A . The polynomial x 3 + 3 x 76 x^3 + 3x - 76 has the root x = 4 x=4 , which is easily seen by using the rational root test. Dividing out by x 4 x-4 gives x 2 + 4 x + 19 x^2 + 4x + 19 , and this polynomial has no real roots. Therefore, x = 4 x = 4 is the only real root and A = 4 A = 4 . Clearly all of its digits after the decimal point are zero...

Oh, I see :)

Star Fall - 4 years, 11 months ago

same approach ..

Ujjwal Mani Tripathi - 4 years, 11 months ago

It is not the same approach, and this answer was posted before the above answer :I

Star Fall - 4 years, 11 months ago

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I meant that i too took the same approach to solve the problem :)

Ujjwal Mani Tripathi - 4 years, 11 months ago

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