But it's not symmetrical!

Algebra Level 5

Let x , y , z x,y,z be real numbers such that x 2 + x y + y 2 = 3 x^2+xy+y^2=3 and y 2 + y z + z 2 = 16 y^2+yz+z^2=16 . Find the maximum value of x y + y z + z x xy+yz+zx .

Write your answer to 3 decimal places.


The answer is 8.0.

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2 solutions

Calvin Lin Staff
Jul 21, 2017

[This is not a complete solution. You should be able to fill in the details]

Consider 3 vectors with lengths x , y , x, y, and z z that are 12 0 120^ \circ apart. (If the lengths are negative, it means that the vector is in the opposite direction.)

  1. What does the conditions x 2 + x y + y 2 = 3 , y 2 + y z + z 2 = 16 x^2 + xy + y^2 = 3 , y^2 + yz + z^2 = 16 tell us about the triangle X Y Z XYZ ?
  2. How is the expression x y + y z + z x xy+yz+zx related to triangle X Y Z XYZ ?
  3. Hence, how can we calculate the maximum value of M = x y + y z + z x M = xy + yz + zx ?
    Hint: 1 2 M × 3 2 1 2 × 3 × 16 \frac{1}{2} M \times \frac{ \sqrt{3} } { 2} \leq \frac{1}{2} \times \sqrt{ 3 \times 16} .
  4. When is the maximium achieved? (In particular, we do not need to calcualte the exact values of x , y , x, y, and z z .)
  5. Generalize!

Great solution!

Steven Jim - 3 years, 10 months ago
Steven Jim
Jul 21, 2017

( x 2 + y 2 + x y ) ( y 2 + y z + z 2 ) (x^2+y^2+xy)(y^2+yz+z^2)

= [ ( y + x 2 ) 2 + 3 4 x 2 ] [ ( y + z 2 ) 2 + 3 4 z 2 ] =[{ (y+\frac { x }{ 2 } })^{ 2 }+\frac { 3 }{ 4 } { x }^{ 2 }][{ (y+\frac { z }{ 2 } ) }^{ 2 }+\frac { 3 }{ 4 } { z }^{ 2 }]

( 3 2 ) 2 [ z ( y + x 2 ) + x ( y + z 2 ) ] 2 \ge (\frac { \sqrt { 3 } }{ 2 } )^{ 2 }[z(y+\frac { x }{ 2 } )+x(y+\frac { z }{ 2 } )]^{ 2 }

= 3 4 ( x y + y z + z x ) 2 =\frac { 3 }{ 4 } (xy+yz+zx)^{ 2 }

= > ( x y + y z + z x ) x y + y z + z x 48 4 3 = 8 => (xy+yz+zx)\le \left| xy+yz+zx \right| \le \frac { \sqrt { 48*4 } }{ \sqrt { 3 } } =8

Please tell me if this solution has any problems and/or missing something. Thanks!

You need to show that the maximum of 8 8 can be achieved.

Mark Hennings - 3 years, 10 months ago

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There's a nice geometric interpretation which establishes the maximum, and provides the reasoning for why 8 can be achieved :)

Let me add a hint ...

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks for the geometric solution :)

Steven Jim - 3 years, 10 months ago

Thanks. I'll edit it soon.

Steven Jim - 3 years, 10 months ago

FYI The last inequality should be ( ) 8 ( \ldots ) \leq | \ldots | \leq 8 .

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Oh yeah. My mistake. I'll fix it.

Steven Jim - 3 years, 10 months ago

What do you think about the solution? @Munem Sahariar

Steven Jim - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Actually the last sentence ''Write your answer to 3 decimal places'' tricks me a little. That's why I had posted the report without thinking. However, I've deleted the wrong report.

Munem Shahriar - 3 years, 10 months ago

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Yeah, it tricks many people. I do understand the feeling though :)

Thanks anyways.

Steven Jim - 3 years, 10 months ago

Great solution @Steven Jim !

James Pohadi - 3 years, 9 months ago

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