Can the Prince save you now?

Gauss' law is a very powerful method to determine the electric field due to a distribution of charges. It can, for instance, be used to find the electric field due to an infinite plate. However, it is usually useless whenever there is a non-uniform field, i.e. there is broken symmetry.

One such case is that of a finite rectangular plate. Find the electric field due to a uniformly charged rectangular plate at a point 1 m above its center of mass.

Details And Assumptions

  • Length = 13 8 m \sqrt{\dfrac{13}{8}}\text{m}
  • Breadth = 3 m
  • Total Charge on plate = 8 × 1 0 8 C 8 \times 10^{-8} \text{C}
  • k = 9 × 1 0 9 Nm 2 C 2 k=9 \times 10^9 \frac{\text{Nm}^2}{\text{C}^2}
  • Plate is an Insulator
This is an original problem.


The answer is 349.167.

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2 solutions

Ronak Agarwal
Jul 10, 2015

My solution involves the use of double integrals that are pretty easy to solve(believe me).

Assume the plate to be part of the xy- plane with the boundaries defined by the equations : x = a / 2 , x = a / 2 , y = b / 2 , y = b / 2 x=a/2,x=-a/2,y=b/2 ,y=-b/2

We want to find the electric field due to the whole plate at the point ( 0 , 0 , d ) (0,0,d)

It is pretty obvious that the resultant electric field would be in +ve z direction.

Hence we would be integrating for z-component of electric field.

Take a infinitesimal area element at a point ( x , y ) (x,y) having area d x d y dxdy . Electric field due to that element is given by :

d 2 E = k σ d x d y cos θ x 2 + y 2 + d 2 d^{2}E = \dfrac { k\sigma dxdy\cos { \theta } }{ { x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 }+{ d }^{ 2 } }

Where θ \theta is angle made by the net electric field by that element with the z-axis.

Now c o s ( θ ) = d x 2 + y 2 + d 2 cos(\theta) = \dfrac { d }{ \sqrt { { x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 }+{ d }^{ 2 } } }

Putting the expression the double integral comes out to be :

E = b / 2 b / 2 a / 2 a / 2 k d σ d x d y ( x 2 + y 2 + d 2 ) 3 / 2 \displaystyle E = \int _{ -b/2 }^{ b/2 }{ \int _{ -a/2 }^{ a/2 }{ \frac { kd\sigma dxdy }{ { ({ x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 }+{ d }^{ 2 }) }^{ 3/2 } } } }

Solving the double integral and putting the value of σ \sigma ,the closed form comes out to be :

E = 4 k q a b tan 1 ( a b 2 d a 2 + b 2 + 4 d 2 ) \displaystyle E = \frac { 4kq }{ ab } \tan ^{ -1 }{ (\frac { ab }{ 2d\sqrt { { a }^{ 2 }+{ b }^{ 2 }+4d^{2} } } ) }

Where q q = Total charge, a , b a,b = Length and breadth of the plate respectively, d d = distance of the point from the centre of mass.

Same way ! BTW I wanted to know whether Gauss can be of any help.

Rajdeep Dhingra - 5 years, 11 months ago

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The prince can't save us.

Ronak Agarwal - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Ofcourse! :D

Satyajit Mohanty - 5 years, 11 months ago

Even i did in the same way but b4 the question was only an integer. So i messed up :'(

Aditya Kumar - 5 years, 11 months ago
Jatin Yadav
Jul 15, 2015

The problem is very similar to A charge oscillating above a charged square plate

Let p = a 2 p=\dfrac{a}{2} and q = b 2 q=\dfrac{b}{2}

Consider two line charges parallel to each other and at same distance from center. We already know the formula for electric field of line charge. We take only vertical component.The small electric field due to these line charges is: d E = σ h p π ϵ 0 ( h 2 + x 2 ) h 2 + q 2 + x 2 \displaystyle dE = \dfrac{\sigma h p}{\pi \epsilon_{0} (h^2+x^2) \sqrt{h^2+q^2+x^2}}

Hence, the net electric field is: E = σ h p π ϵ 0 0 q d x ( h 2 + x 2 ) h 2 + q 2 + x 2 E=\displaystyle \dfrac{\sigma h p}{\pi \epsilon_{0}} \int_{0}^{q} \dfrac{{\mathrm dx}}{(h^2+x^2)\sqrt{h^2+q^2+x^2}}

Substituting ( h 2 + p 2 ) x 2 + 1 = t 2 \dfrac{(h^2+p^2)}{x^2}+1 = t^2 ,

E = σ p π ϵ 0 h h 2 + p 2 q 2 + 1 d t t 2 h 2 + p 2 E = \displaystyle \dfrac{\sigma p}{\pi \epsilon_{0} h} \int_{\sqrt{\frac{h^2+p^2}{q^2}+1}}^{\infty} \dfrac{{\mathrm dt}}{t^2 h^2+p^2}

= σ π ϵ 0 arctan ( h t p ) h 2 + p 2 q 2 + 1 \displaystyle \dfrac{\sigma}{\pi \epsilon_{0}} \arctan \bigg(\dfrac{ht}{p}\bigg) \Bigg|_{\sqrt{\frac{h^2+p^2}{q^2}+1}}^{\infty}

= σ π ϵ 0 arctan ( p q h h 2 + p 2 + q 2 ) \displaystyle \dfrac{\sigma}{\pi \epsilon_{0}} \arctan \Bigg(\dfrac{pq}{h \sqrt{h^2+p^2+q^2}}\Bigg)

where σ = q a b \sigma=\frac{q}{ab} , p = a 2 p=\frac{a}{2} , and q = b 2 q=\frac{b}{2}

Notice that if p p and q q are very huge, the field approaches σ 2 ϵ 0 \dfrac{\sigma}{2 \epsilon_{0}} , which is the one of an infinite plane.

Nice ! But the root stays same :)

Rajdeep Dhingra - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Nice question bro

pawan dogra - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Thank You !

Rajdeep Dhingra - 5 years, 11 months ago

Did the same way !

Sumanth R Hegde - 4 years, 6 months ago

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