Can they pick the same number??

Integers from 1 to 100 are written on ping pong balls which are placed in a glass bowl. Radha picks one of them at random and puts it back. Shyam then picks one of the ping pong balls at random. The probability that Shyam draws a ball that has a bigger number than Radha's is "x". Find 1000x .

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The answer is 495.

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Each of the numbers 1 1 to 100 100 has a probability of 1 100 \frac{1}{100} of being picked by Radha. If Radha picks ball n n then the probability that Shyam draws a ball with a larger number is

100 n 100 = 1 n 100 \frac{100 - n}{100} = 1 - \frac{n}{100} .

Thus the probability that Shyam draws a ball with a larger number than Radha's will be

x = ( 1 100 ) n = 1 100 ( 1 n 100 ) = x = (\frac{1}{100})*\sum_{n=1}^{100} (1 - \frac{n}{100}) =

( 1 100 ) ( 100 ( 1 100 ) n = 1 100 n ) = (\frac{1}{100})*(100 - (\frac{1}{100})*\sum_{n=1}^{100} n) =

1 ( 1 100 100 ) ( 100 101 2 ) = 1 101 200 = 99 200 1 - (\frac{1}{100*100})*(\frac{100*101}{2}) = 1 - \frac{101}{200} = \frac{99}{200} .

Thus 1000 x = 1000 ( 99 200 ) = 495 1000x = 1000*(\frac{99}{200}) = \boxed{495} .

Alternately, note that the probability that Shyam picks the same ball as Radha is 1 100 \frac{1}{100} , and thus the probability that they pick different balls is 99 100 \frac{99}{100} . Since the probabilities will be the same if Shyam picked first and Radha second, the probability that Shyam picks a ball with a larger number is just half the probability that they pick different numbers, i.e., ( 1 2 ) ( 99 100 ) = 99 200 (\frac{1}{2})(\frac{99}{100}) = \frac{99}{200} , as found before.

How is the probability that Shyam picks a ball with a larger number half the probability for different numbers?

Shashank Rammoorthy - 6 years, 8 months ago

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My "alternate" answer was more intuitive than rigorous. Since the picks are random and since the ball is replaced, it doesn't matter who picks first. So the probability that Radha has a number bigger than Shyam's will be the same as the probability that Shyam has a number bigger than Radha's. Thus since the probability that they have different numbers is 99 100 \frac{99}{100} , the probability that Shyam draws a bigger number than Radha's is

( 1 2 ) ( 99 100 ) = 99 200 (\frac{1}{2})(\frac{99}{100}) = \frac{99}{200} .

I hope that this version of my "alternate" answer makes more sense. :)

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 8 months ago

The probability to pick the first ball is 1 100 \frac{1}{100} .

If we picked ball1, then there are 99 balls bigger than ball1.

So, the probability was 1 100 99 100 \frac{1}{100} * \frac{99}{100} .

If we picked ball2, then there are 98 balls bigger than ball2.

So, the probability was 1 100 98 100 \frac{1}{100} * \frac{98}{100}

If we picked ball3, then there are 97 balls bigger than ball3.

So, the probability was 1 100 97 100 \frac{1}{100} * \frac{97}{100}

We can see that if we picked ball n n , then there are 100 - n n balls bigger.

So, the probability must be:

1 100 99 100 + 1 100 98 100 + 1 100 97 100 + 1 100 96 100 + + 1 100 2 100 + 1 100 1 100 \frac{1}{100} * \frac{99}{100} + \frac{1}{100} * \frac{98}{100} + \frac{1}{100} * \frac{97}{100} + \frac{1}{100} * \frac{96}{100} + \ldots + \frac{1}{100} * \frac{2}{100} +\frac{1}{100} * \frac{1}{100}

= 1 100 ( 99 + 98 + 97 + 96 + 95 + + 3 + 2 + 1 100 ) = \frac{1}{100} (\frac{99 + 98 +97 +96 +95 + \ldots + 3 +2 +1}{100})

And 1 + 2 + 3 + + 97 + 98 + 99 = 99 ( 100 ) 2 = 4950 1+2+3+\ldots+97+98+99 = \frac{99(100)}{2} = 4950

And we get x = 1 100 4950 100 1000 x = 495 x = \frac{1}{100} * \frac{4950}{100} \Rightarrow 1000x = \boxed{495}

Really liked your solution... its simple as well as beautiful!! :)

Kshitij Khandelwal - 6 years, 8 months ago
Vinayak Kumar
Oct 5, 2014

If they pick the same number, Shyam cant draw a bigger ball. This happens with a chance of 1 100 \frac{1}{100} . Thus the probability of them choosing different numbers is 99 100 \frac{99}{100} . Note that now we can imagine choosing two random balls, and then assigning one to Shyam and one to Radha. Obviously there is a 1 2 \frac{1}2 chance that Shyam will get the bigger ball, so thus the total probability is 99 100 1 2 = 99 200 \frac{99}{100}\cdot\frac{1}2=\frac{99}{200} and the answer is 1000 ( 99 200 ) = 495 1000\left(\frac{99}{200}\right)=\boxed{495}

Manikanta Hr
Oct 4, 2014

If Radha picks 1, then Shyam has to pick any ball numbered 2 to 100. i.e., 99 possibilities. similarly if she picks 2, then he has to pick any number between 3 to 100 i.e, 98 possibilities. This goes on till she picks 99 numbered ball after which he has to pick 100th ball i.e,. a single possibility. So, total number of possible ways are 99+98+97+. . . . . .+1 which is the Summation of natural numbers from 1 to 99. That gives us 4950. This has to be divided by Total number of all events i.e, 100 x 100 (cos, She puts the ball back). thus x=4950/(100 x 100)=0.495 and 1000x=495

Paola Ramírez
Jan 3, 2015

Radha can pick one 1 1 to 100 100 , and Shyam can pick 1 1 to 100 100 then total order pairs is 100 100 100*100 . ( E ) = 100000 (E)=100000 The number of cases where Shyam draws a ball that has a bigger number than Radha's are equal to the number of cases where Radha draws a ball that has a bigger number than Shyam's, and exist 100 100 order pairs which both numbers are equal. So, total of cases which Radha draws a ball that has a bigger number than Shyam's can be 100000 100 2 = 4950 \frac{100000-100}{2}=4950 Finally, requiered probility is 4950 1000 = 0.495 \frac{4950}{1000}=0.495 and 1000 x = 495 1000x=\boxed{495}

This problem also can be solved using geometry (areas)

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