Can you stretch the boy?

Find the magnitude of the force F F required to fully stretch the boy's arms, i.e both his arms should make a right angle to the vertical.

Note: The boy's mass is 50 kg and gravitational acceleration is g = 9.8 m/s 2 . g=9.8\text{ m/s}^2.

None of the above 100N 163N

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5 solutions

Let the angle θ \theta the angle between the head and the arm (for easy reason).

Draw all the force vectors...

  • Weight m g mg
  • Tension of the rope T T : x-axis T cos θ T\cos\theta and y-axis T sin θ T\sin\theta
  • Pulling force F F

From Newton's law, Σ F = 0 \Sigma F = 0 we get...

T sin θ = F T\sin\theta = F

T cos θ = m g T\cos\theta = mg

Divide 2 equations we get...

tan θ = F m g \tan\theta = \frac{F}{mg} .

For θ = 9 0 , tan θ = \theta = 90^{\circ}, \tan\theta = \infty . So F = F = \boxed{\infty} .~~~

Who did this to the boy, y u so mean. :< (jk he's naughty lol)

HAHA, sorry..

Rohan Chowdhary - 6 years, 11 months ago

Just a heads up, but shouldn't

  • T \sin \theta = mg
  • T \cos \theta = F

Note that this doesn't cause any changes to the true answer, just trying to get the vectors right...

Stefanus Sutopo - 6 years, 10 months ago
Anshul Yadav
Aug 2, 2014

Simply if you fully stretch the boys arms then boy will not have any force in vertical direction to balance mg. It is not possible. So, answer will be infinity.

Lucas Franceschi
Jul 29, 2014

A simple way of thinking about it: Whenever you pull the boy, if you're to hold him in place you need to pull him up with the same force gravity is pulling him down. Since the force you can make in the boy is angled, that means you'll have to use a big enough force so that when you break it down to vertical and horizontal components the vertical one is at least as strong as his weight. The problem is that when you pull the boy the angle gets closer to the horizontal, and at each "step" you'll need to use a greater force in order to keep the vertical component big enough for the boy not to fall.

However,when the boy's arms are fully stretched, as you can see in the drawing, you will be pulling him horizontally, and so it is impossible for you to input a big enough force so that you generate a good vertical component, since no force you put in horizontally will generate a vertical result. In mathematical terms, since your force needs to get stronger and stronger as you pull the boy up, to achieve perfect horizontality you would need an infinite force. In a real application, you would never get a perfectly stretched arms, you would always end up in a close enough angle so that you consider horizontal.

Chew-Seong Cheong
Jul 25, 2014

The resultant force on the center of mass of the boy F R F_R is given by in vectors F R = F + W F_R = F + W , where W = 50 × 9.8 |W| = 50 \times 9.8 N is the weight of the boy. F R F_R makes an angle θ \theta with the vertical, where t a n θ = F W tan \theta = \frac {|F|}{|W|} . For θ \theta to be 9 0 90^\circ , F F must be \boxed {\infty} .

Aditya Kelkar
Sep 16, 2014

when you pull the guy with the rope you apply a horizontal force. However the force which is actually bending his hands exists in the vertically downward direction. Though there is a vertical component of tension in the upward direction, as you pull him up, that component will vanish thereby making it impossible to take his hands to full horizontal.

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