Cannon Ball 2 !!!

Two friends Robert and Alex are playing a cannonball game. Each of them is provided with an identical steel ball of the same mass and volume (they just differ in color). They are having a competition to see who can launch their ball the farthest. The only difference between them is that Robert fires his ball at an angle of θ \theta whereas Alex fires his ball at an angle of θ " = ( 9 0 θ ) \theta^" = (90^\circ - \theta) .

Can you predict who will be the winner of the game?

Details and Assumptions:

  • Assume no wind is blowing and neglect air resistance.
  • The horizontal displacement of a body from its point of projection to its final destination is known as the range .


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Robert Alex It will be a tie Can't be determined

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4 solutions

Ram Mohith
Jul 10, 2018

For any projectile motion of a body the maximum horizontal range will be equal for two angles of projection . They are θ \theta and ( 90 θ ) (90 - \theta) .


Proof

The horizontal range covered by a body is given by the formula R = 2 u 2 sin θ cos θ g R = \dfrac{2u^2\sin \theta \cos \theta}{g}

Case 1 : Angle of projection is θ \theta

R = 2 u 2 sin θ cos θ g R = \dfrac{2u^2\sin \theta \cos \theta}{g}

Case 2 : angle of projection is ( 90 θ ) (90 - \theta)

R = 2 u 2 sin ( 90 θ ) cos ( 90 θ ) g R = \dfrac{2u^2\sin (90 - \theta) \cos (90 - \theta)}{g}

R = 2 u 2 cos θ sin θ g = 2 u 2 sin θ cos θ g \implies R = \dfrac{2u^2\cos \theta \sin \theta}{g} = \dfrac{2u^2\sin \theta \cos \theta}{g}

Hence we proved that for any projectile motion of a body the maximum horizontal range will be equal for two angles of projection. They are θ \theta and ( 90 θ ) (90 - \theta) .


Coming to our question it is given that R o b e r t Robert fires at an angle θ \theta and A l e x Alex fires it an angle ( 90 θ ) (90 - \theta) . So, they both will have same horizontal range covered .

The game will be a Tie. \color{#3D99F6} \therefore \text{The game will be a Tie.}

Ram, your horizontal range formula needs u 2 u^2 rather than just u u .

zico quintina - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Oh!!! I didn't check that . Thanks for informing me.

Ram Mohith - 2 years, 11 months ago
Laszlo Mihaly
Aug 19, 2018

The solution is wrong. Even if there is no wind blowing, the air resistance will influence the range. The winning shot will be fired at at angle less than 45 deg to horizontal, and the other player will most certainly lose.

They said neglect air resistance

Albert Nofanel - 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Zico Quintina
Jul 10, 2018

We can derive the formula for the horizontal range of a projectile, using the kinematics equation d = d 0 + v 0 t + 1 2 a t 2 d = d_0 + v_0 t + \dfrac{1}{2} a t^2 .

Horizontal: We have d x 0 = 0 , v x 0 = v 0 cos θ , a x = 0 d_{x0} = 0, v_{x0} = v_0 \cos \theta, a_x = 0 . Then

d x = v 0 t cos θ ( 1 ) filler \begin{array}{rll} d_x = v_0 t \cos \theta & & \small (1) \\ {\color{#FFFFFF} \text{filler}} \end{array}

Vertical: We have have d y = 0 , d y 0 = 0 , v y 0 = v 0 sin θ , a y = - g d_y = 0, d{y0} = 0, v_{y0} = v_0 \sin \theta, a_y = \text{-}g , where g = 9.8 m / s 2 g = 9.8 m/s^2 . Then

0 = v 0 t sin θ 1 2 g t 2 ( 2 ) filler \begin{array}{rll} 0 = v_0 t \sin \theta - \dfrac{1}{2} g t^2 & & \small (2) \\ {\color{#FFFFFF} \text{filler}} \end{array}

We then proceed as follows:

2 v 0 t sin θ g t 2 = 0 [ Doubling (2) ] t ( 2 v 0 sin θ g t ) = 0 t = 2 v 0 sin θ g ( 3 ) [ Since t 0 when projectile lands ] d x = 2 v 0 2 sin θ cos θ g [ Substituting (3) into (1) ] \begin{array}{rl} 2 v_0 t \sin \theta - g t^2 &= \ \ 0 & & & & & \small \text{[ Doubling (2) ]} \\ \\ t (2 v_0 \sin \theta - g t) &= \ \ 0 \\ \\ t &= \dfrac{2 v_0 \sin \theta}{g} & & \small (3) & & & \small \text{[ Since } t \neq 0 \text{ when projectile lands ]} \\ \\ d_x &= \dfrac{2 v_0^2 \sin \theta \cos \theta}{g} & & & & & \small \text{[ Substituting (3) into (1) ]} \end{array}

Now, to answer our question, we simply need to note that sin ( 9 0 θ ) = cos θ \sin (90^\circ - \theta) = \cos \theta and cos ( 9 0 θ ) = sin θ \cos (90^\circ - \theta) = \sin \theta , so clearly the horizontal ranges for both of the launch angles will be equal.

Chew-Seong Cheong
Jul 11, 2018

Let us find the relation of the horizontal range D D as a function of θ \theta and the initial velocity v v after firing. The projectile has traveled 1 2 D \frac 12 D when it reaches the highest point. That is when v sin θ g t = 0 v\sin \theta - gt = 0 , t = v sin θ g \implies t = \dfrac {v\sin \theta}g and 1 2 D = v cos θ t = v 2 g sin θ cos θ \frac 12 D = v\cos \theta t = \dfrac {v^2}g\sin \theta \cos \theta , D = v 2 g sin ( 2 θ ) \implies D = \dfrac {v^2}g \sin (2\theta) . Now, if D Robert = v 2 g sin ( 2 θ ) D_{\text{Robert}} = \dfrac {v^2}g \sin (2\theta) then D Alex = v 2 g sin ( 2 ( 9 0 θ ) ) = v 2 g sin ( 2 θ ) = D Robert D_{\text{Alex}} = \dfrac {v^2}g \sin (2(90^\circ -\theta)) = \dfrac {v^2}g \sin (2\theta) = D_{\text{Robert}} . It is a tie.

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