Charges On a Ring

Three massless, charged point-particles (two with charge + q +q and one with charge + 3 q +3q ) are situated on a friction-less circular ring.

The + q +q charges are both separated from the + 3 q +3q charge by an angle of θ \theta .

If all three charges are in stasis, what is the value of θ \theta (in degrees, to 1 decimal place)?

Note: Feel free to use a computational aide as necessary.


The answer is 134.4.

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2 solutions

Mark Hennings
Feb 14, 2017

We want to minimise the electrostatic potential energy of the system. Thus we want to minimise V = q 2 8 π ε 0 r { 1 sin θ + 6 sin 1 2 θ } V \; = \; \frac{q^2}{8\pi \varepsilon_0 r} \left\{ \frac{1}{\sin\theta} + \frac{6}{\sin\frac12\theta}\right\} where r r is the radius of the ring, and d V d θ = q 2 8 π ε 0 r × cos θ + 12 cos 3 1 2 θ sin 2 θ \frac{dV}{d\theta} \; = \; -\frac{q^2}{8\pi \varepsilon_0 r}\times \frac{\cos\theta + 12\cos^3\frac12\theta}{\sin^2\theta} so we need to solve the equation 12 cos 3 1 2 θ + cos θ = 0 12\cos^3\tfrac12\theta + \cos\theta \,=\, 0 . The numeric solution to this equation is θ = 134.375791 7 \theta = \boxed{134.3757917^\circ} .

+1! .The charges are constrained to move only along the circumference of the ring, so solving for net force vector (due to charges) normal to ring would also do.

Mayank Chaturvedi - 4 years, 1 month ago

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Do you mean the net force on any particle must be in the direction of normal to the surface at that point ?

If so, how is it equivalent to minimum potential energy of the system !

Vishal Yadav - 4 years, 1 month ago

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I mean net force d u e due t o to a l l all c h a r g e s charges is normal to surface. if the resultant force due to charges is not normal to the tangent it will have some component along the tangent. Since no friction, this would cause the charge to move on circumference of ring suggesting that the potential energy not minimum. Since condition of equilibrium itself is net force zero. How is net force zero? if the resultant force due to the charges is normal to ring, the ring will apply equal and opposite force, nullifying the net force.

Mayank Chaturvedi - 4 years, 1 month ago

Whoa!!! i did by balancing force your solution is awesome bro It didnt came to my mind

Ayush Sharma - 3 years, 12 months ago

A conventional solution by balancing forces: Denote the top +q charge to be vertex A, the bottom +q charge to be vertex B and the +3q charge to be vertex C. Let the centre be O. By symmetry, we have A O C = B O C = θ \angle AOC = \angle BOC = \theta Now consider vertex A. The charge there will experience repulsive forces in the direction B A BA and C A CA . By simple geometry, B A O = θ π / 2 \angle BAO = \theta - \pi/2 , C A O = π / 2 θ / 2 \angle CAO = \pi/2 - \theta/2 . Now, balancing forces in the tangential direction, we obtain ( sin ( θ π / 2 ) ) ( 1 cos ( 2 π 2 θ ) ) = ( 3 sin ( π / 2 θ / 2 ) ) ( 1 cos ( θ ) ) \frac{(\sin(\theta - π/2))}{(1 - \cos(2 π - 2 \theta))} = \frac{(3 \sin(π/2 - \theta/2))}{(1 - \cos(\theta))} Solving this, we get the answer.

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