Chess Exhibition

Algebra Level 2

Magnus, Garry, and Fabiano are playing in an exhibition badminton event. In this exhibition, after two players face off for a set, the winner of the set stays on the court to play the player who was sitting out.

At the end of the event, Magnus has played 9 sets, Garry has played 14 sets, and Fabiano has played 15 sets.

What pair played set number 13 ?

Garry and Fabiano Garry and Magnus Fabiano and Magnus There isn't enough information to know for certain

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11 solutions

Since each set involves two players, the total number of sets played will be the sum of the sets played by each player divided by 2 2 , which comes out to 38 / 2 = 19 38/2 = 19 .

Now no player can sit out more than one set in a row, so with 19 19 sets played, the fewest sets a player can be involved in is 9 9 , which can only occur if such a player is involved in every other set starting from the 2nd set. As Magnus fits this criteria, we know that he is involved in only the even-numbered sets, and so Garry and Fabiano \boxed{\text{Garry and Fabiano}} must have played the 13th set.

wait a minute I went and tried to brute force it and the first possibility I encountered was this: Fabiano (F) Garry (G) Magnus (M) 1- FvsM = F (1st set) 2- FvsG = G (1) 3- GvsM = M (1) 4- MvsF = F (2) 5- FvsG = G (2) 6- GvsM = M (2) 7- MvsF = F (3) 8- FvsG = G (3) 9- GvsM = M (3) 10- MvsF = F (4) 11- FvsG = G (4) 12- GvsM = M (4) 13- MvsF = F (5)

please correct me if I misunderstood the puzzle but with this, if I change the first matches pairing the solution will change so that means that there's not enough information to solve it

oru sama - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Gary needs to play 14 sets and Fabiano needs to play 15 sets. In your scenario, they've only played 9 sets each while Magnus is already at 9 sets and cannot participate in any more sets. If we continue your scenario, set 14 will be FvsG. This makes set 15 unplayable since Magnus cannot play more than 9 sets and Fabiano and Gary cannot play each other without the loser sitting out for one set. So that means the game ended at set 14 with Magnus playing 9 sets and Gary and Fabiano only playing 10 sets each, which is not the case.

The problem is that you've just gone ahead and alternated the winning player every set, giving them 4 wins each. but this cannot be the case since fabiano has played 6 more sets than Magnus which means Fabiano should also have more wins than Magnus. In fact, for Magnus to only play 9 sets, while Garry and Fabiano plays 14 and 15 respectively, he must lose every set.

John Lee - 3 years, 4 months ago

So in the entire exhibition, there are only three people? And the maximum number of sets are known? I agree with your solution, but I think there are some assumptions that need to be made. Therefore more information is required.

Zig Zeigler - 3 years, 4 months ago

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The statement "the winner of the set stays on the court to play the player who was sitting out" shows that there is only one player sitting out and hence these are the only three players, given that this is singles badminton (implied by "two players face off"). We know how many sets were played by these three at the end of the event, and since there were two people in each set, we can derive the maximum number of sets (19, as in the solution given). Therefore no additional assumptions are required.

Richard Farrer - 3 years, 4 months ago

My reading sucks sometimes (or more like I don't fully read sometimes and make up the rest). I thought that we are talking about the wins, not number of games play, so I concluded that we can't know the answer.

Btw., Magnus (Carlsen), Garry (Kasparov) and Fabiano (Caruana) are amongst the most known chess grandmasters, so it's not badminton they should play ;-)

(I hope that these names were chosen like this on purpose!)

Scarlet Evans - 3 years, 4 months ago

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Haha I was wondering why the title was "Chess Exhibition" yet they were playing badminton. I suspect Michael chose the names on purpose, then, but I don't know why he chose badminton; maybe that's his favourite sport.

Brian Charlesworth - 3 years, 4 months ago

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If it were chess they played the answer would have been really easy: MAGNUS played (won) all the sets, now just guess his 13th match :D

Yader Bertrand - 3 years, 4 months ago
Leonard Ng
Jan 22, 2018

As mentioned by Brian Charlesworth, the total numbers of sets played is 19.

Since Fabiano played 15 sets, 19 - 15 = 4 sets did not involve him, meaning Magnus and Garry played 4 sets with each other. Therefore:

M~G = 4, which implies that M~F = 9 - 4 = 5, and also that G~F = 15 - 5 = 10.

Based on the rule of the game, no same pairing can occur consecutively. Hence, if we consider the 10 sets of G~F matches, there must be at least one M~G or M~F set occurring between each of the G~F sets. The total of 9 M~G and M~F sets is the minimum possible, which means that the 10 G~F sets must have been the odd-numbered sets (1, 3, 5, ..., 19), while the even-numbered sets are either M~G or M~F.

Since set 13 is odd-numbered, it must have been G~F.

Nj S
Jan 22, 2018

(Considering the names: If Carlsen is really this bad at badminton against both Caruana and the aging Kasparov, then it's a good thing he chose chess:)

Final Scores: Fabiano vs Magnus: 5 to 0; Garry vs Magnus: 4 to 0; Fabiano vs Garry: 5 to 4 with unknown results in the 19th game.

Haha, I also noticed those were the names of chess players.

Marina Carulla Pastor - 3 years, 4 months ago
Stephen Mellor
Jan 22, 2018

9 + 14 + 15 2 = 19 \frac{9 + 14 + 15}{2} = 19 so there were 19 19 sets played, since each set involves two people.

If we want to minimise the number of games played, then they must lose each game. This is because if they win, they play another game straight after, so losing will minimise their games. This strategy then ensures that they play a game, miss a game, play a game, miss a game, and so on. Also, it is obvious that this is further minimised by sitting out the first set. Therefore, the minimum possible number of sets played can be achieved by playing sets 2 , 4 , 6...18 2,4,6...18 . This amounts to 9 9 sets (and it's a unique way to achieve the minimum when the total number of sets is odd), and since Magnus only played 9 9 sets, he must have played in only the even numbered sets. Therefore he didn't play in set 13 13 meaning the answer is Fabiano & Garry.

I just wanted to share a more visual approach - that lets us know who played who at any step.

As mentioned respectively by Brian Charlesworth, Leonard Ng and by definition:

  • total number of sets is 19,

  • sets that were played: M~G = 4, F~M = 5, F~G = 10

  • no same pair can play twice in a row

Let's construct a diagram of the games.

Let M~G be "-", F~M be "|", F~G be "^".

Let's place M~G (4 sets): - - - -

To place F~M (5 sets), since no same pair can play consecutively, there is only one way to arrange them: | - | - | - | - |

Same goes for F~G (10 sets, compared to the 9 sets already drawn). So here's our final diagram: ^ | ^ - ^ | ^ - ^ | ^ - ^ | ^ - ^ | ^

Now all you need to do is count and you get who plays who at any set. You also get cat emoticons, but that's just bonus.

Vinnie Thomas
Jan 26, 2018

If Marcus played 9 games, Fabiano played 15 games, and Gary played 14 games, then Gary and Fabiano must've been the pair who played the 13th game.

Consider the situation as a venn diagramm. One of the pairs; either MG, GF, or MF, must've been the first the play. Now, pick any pair of players; let's say Gary and Fabiano. If they were not the first pair, then the number of games played by this pair must be equal to the number of losses of Fabiano. This is because one of the players changes every match, as they lose. If the current playing pair were Gary and Fabiano, then Marcus must've lost the previous set, as he's now sat down.

Assuming this is true, Gary and Fabiano would've had to have played less then 9 matches, because the number of matches they play is also the number of matches Marcus has lost, and so the no. of their matches cannot be higher than the total number of matches played by Marcus. However, there is no configuration of matches which satisfies that venn diagramm. Therefore, it must be the case that Gary and Fabiano were the first pair. This means that they would have played one more match than Marcus' losses. The only configuration that satisfies this venn diagramm is as follows: MG 4 matches, GF 10 matches, MF 5 matches.

Next, consider this as the no. of wins and losses. Marcus lost 9, won 0, and so on. Next, arrange this into a continous series of 19 pairs, one for each match. As Marcus lost all his sets, but was not first, he must've been in every even numbered set. Therefore Gary and Fabiano were in every odd numbered set. Hence set 13 was played by Garry and Fabiano.

Credit to others who developed a more erudite and concise solution to the problem.

Anant Dixit
Jan 26, 2018

I took a much longer approach where I looked at how many games each pair of players played. So here it goes:

Let n M G n_{MG} , n G F n_{GF} and n F M n_{FM} be the number of games between (Magnus and Garry), (Garry and Fabiano) and (Fabiano and Magnus) respectively. We can solve these using the total number of games by each player: n M G + n F M = 9 n M G + n G F = 14 n G F + n F M = 15 n_{MG} + n_{FM} = 9\\ n_{MG} + n_{GF} = 14\\ n_{GF} + n_{FM} = 15

to get n G F = 10 n_{GF} = 10 , n F M = 5 n_{FM} = 5 and n M G = 4 n_{MG} = 4 . The total number is 19, but Garry and Fabiano have played 10 games. Hence, this pair has played every alternate game and is the first pair to be matched up, i.e. every odd pair. The 13th set is odd, and therefore it was played by Garry and Fabiano.

La Noapte
Jan 24, 2018

I beleave magnus was disqualified after 9 sets , they all had to play 8 sets and the 9 disqualifed magnus 9 - 9 = 0 is out garry plays 14 sets - 8 = 6 sets left fabiano plays 15 sets - 8 = 7 sets left Garry play fabiano 6 + 7 = 13 sets this is how i get it

Kayla Houssein
Jan 23, 2018

The total number of sets played equals 38 and if you divide that by 2 then the outcome is 19. Magnus only played 9, Garry played 14 and Fabiano played 15, therefore Magnus wouldn't have endured past set 10 (as the we have been informed), so Garry and Fabiano played the 13th streak.

Jam M
Jan 23, 2018

There is a total of 9 + 14 + 15 2 = 19 \frac{9+14+15}{2} = 19 sets. Since F played 15 sets, M and G played 4 sets with each other. Since M played a total of 9 sets, it must be that M and F played 5 sets. Moreover, F and G played 10 sets. Now note the following:

  1. F, G, and M start either on Set #1 or Set #2.
  2. If M wins a game or starts on Set #1, then there will be consecutive sets that have to be played by F and G. Since this violates the rules of the problem, M must start on Set #2 and lose every set of his 9 sets.

Therefore, M was involved in Sets # 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, and 18, leaving Set #13 for F and G.

Let x be sets between M&G, y between M&F and z between.G&F. Then x+y=9, x+z=14, and y+z=15. Solving yields z=10 sets out of the (M+G+F)/2=19 sets played. Since G&F cannot play 2 sets in a row they played every odd set.

Shelby Kilmer - 3 years, 4 months ago
Hedley Quintana
Jan 24, 2018

I stll don't get why is this problem too hard? Magnus DID NOT play set 13, because he stop playing after set 9. The other two persons played more than 13 games, therefore they MUST play game 13th

How do you actually know Magnus did not play the 13th game?

Michael Huang - 3 years, 4 months ago

Magnus plays in the 10th, 12th, 14th, 16th and 18th, right?

Saya Suka - 1 year, 12 months ago

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