Circular Double Twins

Geometry Level 1

There are two identical blue circles and two identical orange circles arranged symmetrically in a larger red circle, as shown. The circles are tangent to each other where they touch.

If the radius of the red circle is R , R, then what is the radius of one of the orange circles?

Hint : Try finding a right triangle and applying the Pythagorean theorem .

R 4 \frac{R}4 R 3 \frac{R}3 3 R 8 \frac{3R}8 2 R 5 \frac{2R}5

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Let the radius of the red circle be R 1 R_1 and the radius of the orange circle be R 2 R_2

Then we can find in the figure

  • O 3 O 1 = R 1 2 + R 2 O_3O_1=\frac{R_1}{2}+R_2

  • O 3 C = R 1 R 2 O_3C=R_1-R_2

  • O 1 C = R 1 2 O_1C=\frac{R_1}{2}

and we also see that O 3 C O_3C is tangent of both the blue circles. So O 1 C O 3 = 90 \angle O_1CO_3=90 .

Therefore we can apply Pythagorean theorum for the right Δ O 1 C O 3 \Delta O_1CO_3

( R 1 R 2 ) 2 + ( R 1 2 ) 2 = ( R 1 2 + R 2 ) 2 \Rightarrow (R_1-R_2)^2+(\frac{R_1}{2})^2=(\frac{R_1}{2}+R_2)^2

R 1 2 + R 2 2 2 R 1 R 2 + R 1 2 4 = R 1 2 4 + R 2 2 + R 1 R 2 \Rightarrow R_1^2+R_2^2-2R_1R_2+\frac{R_1^2}{4}=\frac{R_1^2}{4}+R_2^2+R_1R_2

R 1 2 = 3 R 1 R 2 \Rightarrow R_1^2=3R_1R_2

R 2 = R 1 3 \Rightarrow R_2=\boxed{\frac{R_1}{3}}

how can O3c = R1 - R2???

malav shah - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Because R1 in the red circle's radius and R2 is the orange circles radius. So by subtracting R2 from R1 we get that length which in R1 - R2.

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 3 months ago

I don't get how can R1-R2 = O3C?

Piseth Main - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Because R1 in the red circle's radius and R2 is the orange circles radius. So by subtracting R2 from R1 we get that length which in R1 - R2.

Shreyansh Mukhopadhyay - 3 years, 3 months ago

Why O1C=O3C ?

Lysan dre - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Because R1 in the red circle's radius and R2 is the orange circles radius. So by subtracting R2 from R1 we get that length which in R1 - R2.

Krzysiek Jedraszek - 3 years, 3 months ago

How do you type fractions?

Soham Abhishek - 3 years, 3 months ago

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He uses L a t e x Latex . See the [ f o r m a t t i n g g u i d e ] ( h t t p s : / / b r i l l i a n t . o r g / m a t h f o r m a t t i n g g u i d e ) [formatting guide] (https://brilliant.org/math-formatting-guide)

Javier Álvarez - 3 years, 3 months ago
Arjen Vreugdenhil
Feb 18, 2018

Let r r be the unknown radius. The right triangle drawn here has horizontal leg R r R - r , vertical leg 1 2 R \tfrac12R , and hypotenuse 1 2 R + r \tfrac12R + r . Pythagoras says ( R r ) 2 + ( 1 2 R ) 2 = ( 1 2 R + r ) 2 . (R - r)^2 + (\tfrac12R)^2 = (\tfrac12R + r)^2. R 2 2 R r + r 2 + 1 4 R 2 = 1 4 R 2 + R r + r 2 . R^2 - 2Rr + r^2 + \tfrac14R^2 = \tfrac14R^2 + Rr + r^2. Cancel the r 2 r^2 , combine like terms, and divide by R R to find r = 1 3 R . \boxed{r = \tfrac13R}.

I think you need to prove that the “hypotenuse” is indeed a straight line by pointing out that the orange circle radius and the blue circle radius are both perpendicular to the (same) tangent at the two circles’ intersection.

Ron Boatright - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Thanks for filling that gap... Yes, the two segments have the same direction because they are both perpendicular to the common tangent at their point of tangency.

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 3 months ago

Have you used the a^2+b^2=c^2 method? Where c is the hypotenuse? I have used that method and it works exactly the same way

Adrian Odemba - 3 years, 3 months ago

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I did, with a = R r a = R - r , b = 1 2 R b = \tfrac12 R , and c = 1 2 R + r c = \tfrac12R + r .

Arjen Vreugdenhil - 3 years, 3 months ago
David Vreken
Feb 7, 2018

The large circle has a radius of R R and the medium circles each have a radius of R 2 \frac{R}{2} . Then by Descartes' Theorem , k 4 = k 1 + k 2 + k 3 ± k 1 k 2 + k 2 k 3 + k 1 k 3 k_4 = k_1 + k_2 + k_3 \pm \sqrt{k_1k_2 + k_2k_3 + k_1k_3} where k 1 = 1 R k_1 = -\frac{1}{R} (the reciprocal of the radius of the large circle that is internally tangent to the others), k 2 = 2 R k_2 = \frac{2}{R} (the reciprocal of the radius of the medium circle that is externally tangent to the others), and k 3 = 2 R k_3 = \frac{2}{R} (the reciprocal of the radius of the medium circle that is externally tangent to the others).
Therefore, k 4 = 1 R + 2 R + 2 R ± 1 R 2 R + 2 R 2 R 1 R 2 R = 3 R k_4 = -\frac{1}{R} + \frac{2}{R} + \frac{2}{R} \pm \sqrt{-\frac{1}{R}\frac{2}{R} + \frac{2}{R}\frac{2}{R} - \frac{1}{R}\frac{2}{R}} = \frac{3}{R} , which makes the radius of the fourth smaller circle the reciprocal of k 4 k_4 or R 3 \boxed{\frac{R}{3}} .

I like this alternative (non-Pythagorean) solution.

Andrew Lamoureux - 3 years, 3 months ago

Yea sunce we have 4 circles mutually tangent, we can gauruntee this equation will get us a radius.

Jerry McKenzie - 3 years, 3 months ago

R 2 = r a d i u s o f t h e b l u e c i r c l e \dfrac{R}{2}=radius~of~the~blue~circle and r = r a d i u s o f t h e o r a n g e c i r c l e r=radius~of~the~orange~circle

Apply pythagorean theorem on the black right triangle,

( R 2 + r ) 2 = ( R 2 ) 2 + ( R r ) 2 \left(\dfrac{R}{2}+r\right)^2=\left(\dfrac{R}{2}\right)^2+(R-r)^2

R 2 4 + 2 ( R 2 ) ( r ) + r 2 = R 2 4 + R 2 2 R r + r 2 \dfrac{R^2}{4}+2\left(\dfrac{R}{2}\right)(r)+r^2=\dfrac{R^2}{4}+R^2-2Rr+r^2

R 2 4 + R r + r 2 = R 2 4 + R 2 2 R r + r 2 \dfrac{R^2}{4}+Rr+r^2=\dfrac{R^2}{4}+R^2-2Rr+r^2

3 R r = R 2 3Rr=R^2

r = R 3 \boxed{r=\dfrac{R}{3}}

A clear and understandable engineering explanation. :-)

Mart Morr - 3 years, 3 months ago

Create a triangle with sides: R - r, R/2 and R/2 + r and use Pythagoras. Little r stands for the radius of the smaller circle.

A very simple solution is rotating line R counterclockwise 90 degrees and seeing that the short line is 1/3 the radius

How can I prove that it’s third of R? We can create a right triangle that it’s height is R and the base is 2R. I am stuck in the step of “seeing” it is third of R.

Bar Kam - 3 years, 3 months ago

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Honestly it is more estimation

Xinli Dai the 3.14 Guy - 3 years, 3 months ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Feb 19, 2018

We note that the diameters of the blue circles and the extensions of the diameters of the orange circles meet at the center O O of the big red circle. Let the radius of the orange circle be r r . Since the radii R 2 \dfrac R2 and r r from the centers A A and C C of the top blue and the left orange circles respectively are perpendicular to their common tangent, A C = R 2 + r AC = \dfrac R2 + r is a straight line. Now we have:

B C + C O = B O By Pythagorean theorem r + A C 2 A O 2 = R r + ( R 2 + r ) 2 ( R 2 ) 2 = R ( R 2 + r ) 2 ( R 2 ) 2 = R r Squaring both sides ( R 2 + r ) 2 ( R 2 ) 2 = R 2 2 R r + r 2 R 2 4 + R r + r 2 R 2 4 = R 2 2 R r + r 2 3 R r = R 2 r = R 3 \begin{aligned} BC + \color{#3D99F6}CO & = BO & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{By Pythagorean theorem} \\ r + \color{#3D99F6}\sqrt{AC^2-AO^2} & = R \\ r + \sqrt{\left(\frac R2 + r\right)^2-\left(\frac R2\right)^2} & = R \\ \sqrt{\left(\frac R2 + r\right)^2-\left(\frac R2\right)^2} & = R - r & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Squaring both sides} \\ \left(\frac R2 + r\right)^2-\left(\frac R2\right)^2 & = R^2 - 2Rr + r^2 \\ \frac {R^2}4 + Rr + r^2 - \frac {R^2}4 & = R^2 - 2Rr + r^2 \\ 3Rr & = R^2 \\ \implies r & = \boxed{\dfrac R3} \end{aligned}

Well, everyobdy here have drawn the triangle, so watch it and read this. By using the hint: R 2 4 + ( R x ) 2 = ( R 2 + x ) 2 \frac{R^2}{4}+(R-x)^{2}=(\frac{R}{2}+x)^2 R 2 4 = ( R 2 + x + R x ) ( R 2 + x R + x ) \Rightarrow \frac{R^2}{4}=(\frac{R}{2}+x+R-x)(\frac{R}{2}+x-R+x) R 6 = 2 x R 2 x = R 3 \Rightarrow \frac{R}{6}=2x-\frac{R}{2} \Rightarrow x=\frac{R}{3}

yeah we need to draw a triangle, the diagram is half of the solution . .

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 3 months ago

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And the difference is that...? You've seen the triangle, so you don't need me to draw it again

Hjalmar Orellana Soto - 3 years, 3 months ago
Achyut Dhiman
Feb 18, 2018

Solve this equation.

(R-x)² +(R/2)²= (X+(r/2))².

Where R is as given in question and x as the radius of smaller circle.

(Join the centres of all the circles. And then observe the right triangle formed)

(1st point- centre of largest circle

2nd point- centre of medium sized
Circle

3rd point- centre of smallest circle)

*All the above points are a part of the Rhombus formed in step 1

On solving the equation We get 4R² =12Rx On solving further x=R/3

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