Classic problem

A block of mass m m is dropped from a height h h on a spring, of constant k k , as shown in the figure. Find the maximum velocity attained by block

Details and Assumption

  • Assume spring is long enough.

  • Spring is fixed on ground at one end.

  • h = 5 m , m = 6 kg , g = 10 m s 2 , k = 2 N m 1 h=\SI{5}{\meter}, m=\SI{6}{\kilo\gram}, g=\SI{10}{\meter\per\second\squared}, k=\SI{2}{\newton\per\meter}


The answer is 20.

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4 solutions

Well, I wanted to use calculus and I did!:) I supposed the block is somewhere in its journey, and has compressed by a distance ' x x '. Remember, this x x is not the maximum compression, but some arbitrary compression at the moment it's velocity is maximum. So, by energy conservation,

m g ( h + x ) = 1 2 k x 2 + 1 2 m v 2 60 ( 5 + x ) = x 2 + 3 v 2 v 2 = 100 + 20 x 1 3 x 2 v = ( 100 + 20 x 1 3 x 2 ) 1 2 \quad \quad \quad mg(h+x)\quad =\quad \frac { 1 }{ 2 } k{ x }^{ 2 }+\frac { 1 }{ 2 } m{ v }^{ 2 }\\ \Rightarrow \quad 60(5+x)\quad =\quad { x }^{ 2 }+3{ v }^{ 2 }\\ \Rightarrow \quad { v }^{ 2 }\quad =\quad 100+20x-\frac { 1 }{ 3 } { x }^{ 2 }\\ \Rightarrow \quad v\quad =\quad { (100+20x-\frac { 1 }{ 3 } { x }^{ 2 }) }^{ \frac { 1 }{ 2 } }

Now, by differentiating and equating to 0 0 , we get x = 30 x=30 and using this values v = 20 v=20

Cheers!:)

I used the same method as well!

Rishav Koirala - 6 years, 2 months ago

yeah, quite easy

Rohith M.Athreya - 5 years, 3 months ago
Kushal Patankar
Mar 23, 2015

If you are thinking that answer should be 10 then you are wrong.

As soon as block touches the spring, spring will surely force it upwards but that force will be not enough to retard the block until spring force becomes equal to blocks weight i . e . m g i.e. mg . So spring will compress upto x = m g k x=\frac{mg}{k} untill the block starts to retard.

Now apply energy conservation.

You should get v = 2 g h + m g 2 k v=\sqrt{2gh +\frac{mg^2}{k}}

Plug in the values

@Kushal Patankar In ur last equation , 2gh has units of velocity BUT mg^2 / k has units of distance . How r u adding these two ?

Saraswati Sharma - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Nope, recheck your point,

m g 2 k = [ M 1 ] [ L 2 T 4 ] [ M 1 T 2 ] = L 2 T 2 \frac{mg^2}{k} = \frac{[\text{M}^{1}][\text{L}^{2}\text{ T}^{-4}]}{[\text{M}^{1}\text{ T}^{-2}]}=\frac{\text{L}^{2}}{\text{T}^{2}} ,

And besides they both have dimensions of velocity squared, that's how I was adding THOSE TWO.

Kushal Patankar - 4 years, 7 months ago

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My mistake. I ignored "g^2" .

Saraswati Sharma - 4 years, 7 months ago

OK man got it

Vaibhav Prasad - 6 years, 2 months ago
Nikhil Tanwar
Apr 22, 2015

you may also use the fact that in shm the velocity is maximum at mean position.

Ayon Ghosh
Jul 27, 2017

The essential fact is after the block hits the spring with K.E. = P.E. = m g h mgh it still accelerates because initially the retarding force k x kx on it is NOT equal to it , infact it is less than it till mg = kx at x x = = 30.0 30.0 m m . But the motion between x = 0 and x = 30 m is quite complicated as acceleration varies as a ( t ) a(t) = = ω 2 ω^2 x ( t ) x(t) . So to bypass this we use energy considerations.

m g h mgh + + m g x mgx = = 0.5 k x 2 0.5kx^2 + + 0.5 m v 2 0.5mv^2 putting values we get v v = = 20 20 m s 1 ms^{-1} .

(p.s. this problem reminds me of an ipho problem involving bungee jumping.i think it was IPHO 2002/2001.)

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