Let p , q , r be the roots of the equation x 3 − 2 x 2 + 2 x − 1 1 = 0 . Determine the value of the product ( p 2 − 2 q r ) ( q 2 − 2 p r ) ( r 2 − 2 p q ) .
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This question freaked the hell out of me as I was getting a negative answer and I couldn't really believe that I had done a 250 pt question so fast and I spent another 20 mins just verifying the solution.
i did exactly same .... :)
did the same way!!@ @Zhou ZeHao
omg.... nice solution!!
The same way exactly....
Your solution is very nice & beautiful.. Woww!!
Since p q r = 1 1 ⇒ ( p 2 − 2 q r ) = ( p 2 − p 2 2 ) So our required expression becomes- p q r ( p 3 − 2 2 ) ( q 3 − 2 2 ) ( r 3 − 2 2 ) = 1 1 ( p 3 − 2 2 ) ( q 3 − 2 2 ) ( r 3 − 2 2 ) = 1 1 P ( s a y ) Now we need to find P . One way we can do that is to put x = ( y + 2 2 ) 3 1 so that the new cubic obtained has P as the product of its three roots- ( p 3 − 2 2 ) , ( q 3 − 2 2 ) & ( r 3 − 2 2 ) . I will directly write the new equation which is: y 3 + 3 7 y 2 + 4 1 5 y + 5 3 9 = 0 Now from here P = − 5 3 9 ⇒ 1 1 P = − 4 9
( p 2 − 2 q r ) ( q 2 − 2 p r ) ( r 2 − 2 p q )
Which give us
− 7 ( p q r ) 2 − 2 ( p 3 q 3 + q 3 r 3 + r 3 p 3 ) + 4 p q r ( p 3 + q 3 + r 3 ) . . . . . . ( i )
Now By Vieta we have
p q r = 1 1 p + q + r = 2 p q + q r + p r = 2
We know
( a + b + c ) 3 = a 3 + b 3 + c 3 + 3 [ ( a + b + c ) ( a b + b c + c a ) − a b c ]
Putting a = p , b = q a n d c = r
We get p 3 + q 3 + r 3 = 2 9
Similarly by putting
a = p q b = q r a n d c = p r
we get p q 3 + q r 3 + r p 3 = 2 3 9
now plugging all these values in . . . . ( i )
w e g e t − 7 ( 1 1 ) 2 − 2 ( 2 3 9 ) + 4 4 ( 2 9 )
⇒ − 4 9
i did it the same way too...
did same...
is it like 8+8+8+3[2 2 -11] ? bcz this is what I did but did not get 29? how to solve it correctly?
I was making mistakes using the other methods for some reason so I settled for this alternative solution using Newton's sums.
Same solution here too!
I see many have solved it but due to the enormous length of the solution, few wanna post the solution.
Thst applies for me too.
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By Vieta, we have p + q + r = 2 and p q + q r + p r = 2 so p 2 + q 2 + r 2 = ( p + q + r ) 2 − 2 ( p q + p r + q r ) = 0 . So we can substitute p 2 = − q 2 − r 2 into p 2 − 2 q r to get that
p 2 − 2 q r = − q 2 − 2 q r − r 2 = − ( q + r ) 2
We also have that q + r = 2 − p so p 2 − 2 q r = − ( 2 − r ) 2 . Doing similarly for the other two, we get the desired product as
− [ ( 2 − r ) ( 2 − p ) ( 2 − q ) ] 2
Rather than expanding this, we note that x 3 − 2 x 2 + 2 x − 1 1 = ( x − p ) ( x − q ) ( x − r ) since p , q , and r are the three roots. Thus substituting x = 2 matches the expression above so
2 3 − 2 ( 2 2 ) + 2 ( 2 ) − 1 1 = − 7 = ( 2 − r ) ( 2 − p ) ( 2 − q )
so − [ ( 2 − r ) ( 2 − p ) ( 2 − q ) ] 2 = − 4 9 .