If p , q and r are the three roots of x 3 + x 2 + x − 8 = 0 , what is the value of
p 3 + 2 p 2 + p + q 3 + 2 q 2 + q + r 3 + 2 r 2 + r ?
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Could you explain the first step for me, how the cube of the root plus the square of the root plus the root itself equals 8 for each root?
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f(x)=x^3 + x^2 + x - 8 = 0 ; f(x) = 8 f(p) = p^3 + p^2 + p - 8 = 0; f(p) = 8 similarly f(q)=f(r)=8
Very nice solution.
Nice approach
I think the problem is easier knowing Newton´s Sums.
Lets see p 3 + 2 p 2 + p + q 3 + 2 q 2 + q + r 3 + 2 r 2 + r can be written as ( p + q + r ) + 2 ( p 2 + q 2 + r 2 ) + ( p 3 + q 3 + r 3 ) .
Say P 1 = p + q + r , P 2 = p 2 + q 2 + r 2 , P 3 = p 3 + q 3 + r 3 .Now according to Newton´s Sums, we know:
P 1 + 1 = 0 ⇒ P 1 = − 1
P 2 + P 1 + 2 = 0 ⇒ P 2 = − 1
P 3 + P 2 + P 1 − 2 4 = 0 ⇒ P 3 = 2 6 .
So ( p + q + r ) + 2 ( p 2 + q 2 + r 2 ) + ( p 3 + q 3 + r 3 ) = ( − 1 ) + 2 ( − 1 ) + 2 6 = 2 3 .
It's so amazing for me, but how do you do if you did not know "Newton' s sum" like this.
Same method!
Since, x^3+x^2+x-8=0 is polynomial equation with leading coefficient 1, therefore, sum of the roots=p+q+r= -(coefficient of x^2/coefficient of x^3)=-(1)/(1)=- 1 and product of roots taken two at a time=pq+qr+rp=(coefficient of x/coefficient of x^3)= (1)/(1)=1 My remaining steps are the same as that of Chew-Seong Cheong
Since p,q,r are the roots of the given equation therefore we can write x=p,x=q & x=r...from the given equation we get p+q+r=-1 & pq+qr+pr=1...now the expression whose value is to be found out can be written as x^3 + 2 x^2 + x + x^3 + 2 x^2 + x + x^3 + 2 x^2 +x = 3 x^3 + 6 x^2 + 3x....we have x^3 + x^2 + x=8....So divide (3 x^3 + 6 x^2 + 3x) by (x^3 + x^2 + x) using long division....we get quotient as 3 and remainder as 3 x^2....so (3 x^3 + 6 x^2 +3x)=((x^3 + x^2 + x) * 3 ) + 3 x^2...= 8*3 + 3 x^2 = 24 + x^2 + x^2 + x^2 =24 + p^2 +q^2 + r^2 = 24+ ((p+q+r)^2 -2(pq+qr+pr)) = 24+1-2 = 23...
This is also amazing solution for me.
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Since p , q and r are the roots of x 3 + x 2 + x − 8 = 0 , then p 3 + p 2 + p = 8 , q 3 + q 2 + q = 8 and r 3 + r 2 + r = 8 .
Therefore,
p 3 + 2 p 2 + p + q 3 + 2 q 2 + r 3 + 2 r 2 + r
= p 3 + p 2 + p + q 3 + q 2 + r 3 + r 2 + r + p 2 + q 2 + r 2
= 8 + 8 + 8 + p 2 + q 2 + r 2 = 2 4 + p 2 + q 2 + r 2
We now need to find = p 2 + q 2 + r 2 .
Since p , q and r are the roots of x 3 + x 2 + x − 8 = 0 , then:
x 3 + x 2 + x − 8 = ( x − p ) ( x − q ) ( x − r )
= x 3 − ( p + q + r ) x 2 + ( p q + q r + r p ) x − p q r
⇒ p + q + r = − 1
p q + q r + r p = 1
Now we have:
( p + q + r ) 2 = p 2 + q 2 + r 2 + 2 ( p q + q r + r p )
( − 1 ) 2 = p 2 + q 2 + r 2 + 2 ( 1 )
⇒ p 2 + q 2 + r 2 = 1 − 2 = − 1
Therefore, p 3 + 2 p 2 + p + q 3 + 2 q 2 + r 3 + 2 r 2 + r = 2 4 − 1 = 2 3