Co-relating moments of inertia with geometry.

An equilateral triangular plate has side length a a , and the moment of inertia about the axis shown is I I .

A regular hexagonal plate has side length 2 a 2a , and the moment of inertia about the axis shown can be given as a constant multiple of I I : k I k I .

What is k ? k?

Note: Assume both plates have negligible thickness.


The answer is 480.

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3 solutions

Rohit Gupta
Apr 11, 2018

Let the moment of inertia of the triangle of side a a is I I .

We know that the moment of inertia is proportional to the mass and square of side length. I M a 2 I \propto Ma^2 Also, mass is proportional to the area or square of side M a 2 M \propto a^2 I a 4 I \propto a^4

Let us draw two triangles of side length 2 a 2a over the top and bottom of the hexagon. The geometry will look like as shown,

The moment of inertia of anyone orange triangle will be 16 I 16I because the side length is 2 a 2a and I a 4 I \propto a^4

Now we can break this geometry into two equilateral triangles of side length 4 a 4a and moment of inertia 256 I 256I each.

Thus, the moment of inertia of the hexagon will be the total moment of inertia minus the moment of inertia of the orange triangles.

Putting the values we get, Moment of inertia of the hexagon = 2 × 256 I 2 × 16 I = 480 I . 2 \times 256 I - 2 \times 16 I = \boxed{480 I}.

While calculating the moment of inertia of the orange triangles, why you didn't apply parallel axis theorem?

Bhaskar Pandey - 3 years, 1 month ago

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Can you elaborate, why should the parallel axis theorem be applied?

Rohit Gupta - 3 years, 1 month ago

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I took the axis perpendicular to plane, sorry for that and your solution is now clear to me.

Bhaskar Pandey - 3 years, 1 month ago

The axis for these orange triangles is still at the same spot, we only scaled the triangle up. Parallel axis theorem only needs to be used when we move the axis somewhere else, outside the centre of mass.

Petr Doležal - 3 years, 1 month ago

The most elegant solution. And a very impressive result, does this mean that applying the same force perpendicular to the plane on both shapes during the same increase of time and the same distance about the axis, we produce, in the triangle a 480 times greater angular velocity than that of the pentagon?

Pau Cantos - 3 years, 1 month ago

Very easy to understand even for beginners

Mr. India - 3 years, 1 month ago

Awesome process!

Arunava Das - 3 years, 1 month ago

Very elegant solution!

Iain Rourke - 3 years, 1 month ago

Adding two triangles on top and bottom was wonderful

Harsh Lodha - 3 years, 1 month ago
Mark Hennings
Mar 26, 2018

If the moment of inertia of a triangle of side a a about the given axis is I \mathcal{I} , then the moment of inertia of a triangle of side 2 a 2a about the corresponding axis is 16 I 16\mathcal{I} (the mass has been multiplied by 4 4 and the dimensions doubled). Similarly the moment of inertia of a triangle of side 4 a 4a about the corresponding axis is 256 I 256\mathcal{I} . Thus the moment of inertia of the top half of a hexagon of side 2 a 2a about the given axis (which can be seen as a triangle of side 4 a 4a with a triangle of side 2 a 2a removed is ( 256 16 ) I = 240 I (256-16)\mathcal{I} = 240\mathcal{I} . Doubling up, the moment of inertia of a hexagon of side 2 a 2a is 480 I 480\mathcal{I} .

Alternatively, suppose that the moment of inertia of an triangle of mass m m and side a a is J ( a ) J(a) . Then, by symmetry and the parallel axes theorem, 16 J ( a ) = J ( 2 a ) = 2 J ( a ) + 2 [ J ( a ) + m ( 1 2 a ) 2 ] = 4 J ( a ) + 1 2 m a 2 16J(a) \; = \; J(2a) \; = \; 2J(a) + 2\big[J(a) + m(\tfrac12a)^2\big] \; = \; 4J(a) + \tfrac12ma^2 and hence J ( a ) = 1 24 m a 2 J(a) = \tfrac{1}{24}ma^2 . Now splitting the hexagon of side 2 a 2a into 24 24 triangles of side a a and applying the parallel axes theorem many times, we see that the moment of inertia of the hexagon is 4 J ( a ) + 8 [ J ( a ) + m ( 1 2 a ) 2 ] + 8 [ J ( a ) + m a 2 ] + 4 [ J ( a ) + m ( 3 2 a ) 2 ] 4J(a) + 8\big[J(a) + m(\tfrac12a)^2\big] + 8\big[J(a) + ma^2\big] + 4\big[J(a) + m(\tfrac32a)^2\big] which is equal to 24 J ( a ) + 2 m a 2 + 8 m a 2 + 9 m a 2 = 24 J ( a ) + 19 m a 2 = 20 m a 2 = 480 J ( a ) 24J(a) + 2ma^2 + 8ma^2 + 9ma^2 \; = \; 24J(a) + 19ma^2 \; = \; 20ma^2 \; = \; 480J(a) making the answer 480 \boxed{480} again.

Hollis Smith
Apr 17, 2018

Although this problem may be solved by simply considering proportions, it also serves as a good exercise in calculating moments of inertia.

The moment of inertia of an equilateral triangular plate with side-length a a and thickness t t is given by integrating the squared distance between the axis of rotation (let's call it the y y -axis) and each mass element d m = ρ d V {\rm d}m = \rho \,{\rm d}V .

The density is ρ = m / V = m ( 1 2 a 3 a 2 t ) 1 = 4 3 m 3 a 2 t . \rho = m/V = m \left( \frac{1}{2} a \cdot \frac{\sqrt3 a}{2} \cdot t \right)^{-1} = \frac{4 \sqrt{3} m}{3 a^{2} t} \,. Thus, the moment of inertia for the triangular plate may be integrated as I = m r 2 y 2 d m = V ( r 2 y 2 ) ρ d V = 4 3 m 3 a 2 t t / 2 t / 2 0 3 a / 2 a / 2 + y / 3 a / 2 y / 3 ( x 2 + z 2 ) d x d y d z = m ( a 2 24 + t 2 12 ) . I = \int_{m} r^2 - y^2 \,{\rm d}m = \int_{V} (r^2-y^2 )\rho\,{\rm d}V = \frac{4 \sqrt{3} m}{3 a^{2} t} \int\limits_{-t/2}^{t/2} \int\limits_{0}^{\sqrt3a/2} \int\limits_{-a/2 +y/\sqrt3}^{\ a/2-y/\sqrt3} (x^2+z^2) \,{\rm d}x\,{\rm d}y\,{\rm d}z = m \left( \frac{a^2}{24} + \frac{t^2}{12} \right)\,. Assuming the thickness to be negligible ( t a t \ll a ), I I simplifies to I = 1 24 m a 2 . I = \frac{1}{24}ma^2\,. Since we may add and subtract moments of inertia about the same axis, we note that the hexagon is equivalent to two large triangles of side length 4 a 4a , less two triangles of side length 2 a 2a . Since the mass of these triangles scale (for a fixed thickness) with the length squared, their masses are respectively 16 m 16m and 4 m 4m .

The moment of inertia of the hexagon is then I h e x = 2 ( I 4 a I 2 a ) = 1 12 [ ( 16 m ) ( 4 a ) 2 ( 4 m ) ( 2 a ) 2 ] = 20 m a 2 . I_{\rm hex} = 2(I_{4a} - I_{2a}) = \frac{1}{12} \left[ (16m)(4a)^2 - (4m)(2a)^2 \right]=20ma^2\,. And the ratio desired is k = I h e x I = 20 24 = 480 . k = \frac{I_{\rm hex}}{I} = 20\cdot 24 = \boxed{480}\,.

Where did " y 2 " "-y^2" come from?

Steve The Philosophist - 3 years, 1 month ago

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