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Algebra Level 5

Let ( a 1 , b 1 ) (a_1,b_1) , ( a 2 , b 2 ) (a_2,b_2) , ..., ( a n , b n ) (a_n,b_n) be all the pairs of real numbers that satisfy following system of equations: { a 3 + 6 a b + 8 = b 3 a 5 + 32 = b 5 \left\{\begin{matrix} a^3+6ab+8= b^3 \\a^5+32= b^5 \end{matrix}\right. Find the value of n + k = 1 n ( a k 2 + b k 2 ) . n+\sum_{k=1}^{n} (a_k^2+b_k^2) \ .

This problem is original and belongs to this set .


The answer is 10.

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3 solutions

Kazem Sepehrinia
Apr 28, 2015

Step 1) Use the following identity for first equation x 3 + y 3 + z 3 3 x y z = ( x + y + z ) ( ( x y ) 2 + ( x z ) 2 + ( y z ) 2 2 ) x^3+y^3+z^3-3xyz=(x+y+z) \left( \frac{(x-y)^2+(x-z)^2+(y-z)^2}{2} \right) So we can write a 3 + 6 a b + 8 b 3 = a 3 + ( b ) 3 + 2 3 3 ( a ) ( b ) ( 2 ) = 0 ( a b + 2 ) ( ( a + b ) 2 + ( a 2 ) 2 + ( b + 2 ) 2 ) = 0 a^3+6ab+8-b^3=a^3+(-b)^3+2^3-3(a)(-b)(2)=0 \\ (a-b+2)((a+b)^2+(a-2)^2+(b+2)^2)=0 Therefore we have b = a + 2 b=a+2 or a = b = 2 a=-b=2

Step 2) Using the obtained possibilities for a a and b b in the second equation. Second case i.e. a = b = 2 a=-b=2 does not satisfy second equation. One possibility remains and that is b = a + 2 b=a+2 which gives us a 5 + 32 = ( a + 2 ) 5 a 4 + 4 a 3 + 8 a 2 + 8 a = 0 a ( a + 2 ) ( a 2 + 2 a + 4 ) = 0 a = 0 , 2 a^5+32=(a+2)^5 \\ a^4+4a^3+8a^2+8a=0 \\ a(a+2)(a^2+2a+4)=0 \\ a=0,-2 For a = 0 a=0 we get b = 2 b=2 and for a = 2 a=2 we get b = 0 b=0 . Finally there are two such pairs ( a , b ) = ( 0 , 2 ) , ( 2 , 0 ) (a,b)=(0,2), (-2,0) Answer will be 2 + ( 0 ) 2 + ( 2 ) 2 + ( 2 ) 2 + ( 0 ) 2 = 10 2+(0)^2+(2)^2+(-2)^2+(0)^2=10

Nice Question .. But truly speaking , I just think in my mind that answer is (2,0) and (-2,0) hence answer us 2 + 2 2 + 2 2 2+2^2+2^2 .. But Your proof is elegant ! Thanks

Nishu sharma - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Hey Nishu,

Actually, after making the problem, I realized that one can kill this problem easily using wolfram or guessing solutions, but the main idea behind this problem is to prove that there are just two solutions.

Kazem Sepehrinia - 6 years, 1 month ago

I did same!!

And nice problem sir

Dev Sharma - 5 years, 7 months ago
Carlos Victor
May 3, 2015

My idea was identical to the Kazem. This identity solve several interesting problems.

Thanks for trying my problem sir.

Kazem Sepehrinia - 6 years, 1 month ago
Otto Bretscher
Apr 30, 2015

Using the cubic formula, we solve the first equation for b b and find b = a + 2 b=a+2 . (We don't have to worry about the special case a = 2 a=2 , when the discriminant is 0, since the system has no solutions in that case.) The system now reduces to ( a + 2 ) 5 = a 5 + 32 (a+2)^5=a^5+32 ; consider the function f ( a ) = ( a + 2 ) 5 a 5 32 f(a)=(a+2)^5-a^5-32 . We can spot the roots f ( 0 ) = f ( 2 ) = 0 f(0)=f(-2)=0 . There can't be any other solutions since the graph of f ( a ) f(a) is concave up; indeed, f ( a ) = 40 ( 3 a 2 + 6 a + 4 ) > 0 f''(a)=40(3a^2+6a+4)>0 for all a . a.

Thus the only solutions are ( 0 , 2 ) (0,2) and ( 2 , 0 ) . (-2,0).

Nice solution, thanks sir.

Kazem Sepehrinia - 6 years, 1 month ago

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