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Algebra Level 1

Find the smallest number among the following numbers:

(A) log 2015 2016 \log_{2015}2016

(B) log 2016 2017 \log_{2016}2017

(C) log 2017 2018 \log_{2017}2018

(D) log 2018 2019 \log_{2018}2019

(E) log 2019 2020 \log_{2019}2020

C D E A B

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We will prove that for positive number x x and x > 1 x>1 , we have log x ( x + 1 ) > log x + 1 ( x + 2 ) \log_{x}(x+1)>\log_{x+1}(x+2) .

Indeed, we have:

log x ( x + 1 ) > log x + 1 ( x + 2 ) \quad\;\log_{x}(x+1)>\log_{x+1}(x+2)

ln ( x + 1 ) ln x > ln ( x + 2 ) ln ( x + 1 ) \Leftrightarrow \dfrac{\ln(x+1)}{\ln x}>\dfrac{\ln(x+2)}{\ln(x+1)}

ln 2 ( x + 1 ) > ln x ln ( x + 2 ) \Leftrightarrow \ln^2(x+1)>\ln x*\ln(x+2)

Applying the Arithmetic Mean Geometric Mean Inequality , we get:

ln x + ln ( x + 2 ) 2 ln x ln ( x + 2 ) \ln x+\ln(x+2)\ge2\sqrt{\ln x*\ln(x+2)}

On the other hand, we have: ( x + 1 ) 2 > x ( x + 2 ) 2 ln ( x + 1 ) > ln x + ln ( x + 2 ) (x+1)^2>x(x+2)\Leftrightarrow 2\ln(x+1)>\ln x+\ln(x+2)

Thus, ln ( x + 1 ) > ln x ln ( x + 2 ) \ln(x+1)>\sqrt{\ln x*\ln(x+2)} or ln 2 ( x + 1 ) > ln x ln ( x + 2 ) \ln^2(x+1)>\ln x*\ln(x+2)

So the smallest number is E \boxed{E} .

The correct interpretation of log x ( x + 1 ) \log_x(x+1) should be ln ( x + 1 ) / ln ( x ) \ln(x+1)/\ln(x) .

log x ( x + 1 ) ln ( x + 1 ) ln ( x ) \log_x(x+1) \ne \ln(x+1) - \ln(x)

Janardhanan Sivaramakrishnan - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Thanks for your feedback!

I fixed my solution immediately.

Khang Nguyen Thanh - 5 years, 10 months ago

The five terms are of the form log n ( n + 1 ) = log ( n + 1 ) log n \log_n {(n+1)} = \dfrac{\log{(n+1)}}{\log{n}} . Let n = m + 1 n = m+1 , then we have

log n ( n + 1 ) = log ( m + 2 ) log ( m + 1 ) log ( 1 + 2 m ) log ( 1 + 1 m ) [ means "increases with" ] 2 m 1 2 ( 2 m ) 2 + 1 3 ( 2 m ) 3 . . . 1 m 1 2 ( 1 m ) 2 + 1 3 ( 1 m ) 3 . . . 2 + 2 m 1 + 1 2 m = 4 m + 4 2 m + 1 = 2 + 2 2 m + 1 log n ( n + 1 ) 1 2 n 1 \begin{aligned} \log_n {(n+1)} = \dfrac{\log{(m+2)}}{\log{(m+1)}} & \color{#3D99F6}{\propto} \dfrac{\log{(1+\frac{2}{m})}}{\log{(1+\frac{1}{m})}} \quad \color{#3D99F6} {[\propto \text{ means "increases with"}]} \\ & \propto \dfrac{\frac{2}{m} - \frac{1}{2} \left(\frac{2}{m}\right)^2 + \frac{1}{3} \left(\frac{2}{m}\right)^3-...}{\frac{1}{m} - \frac{1}{2} \left(\frac{1}{m}\right)^2 + \frac{1}{3} \left(\frac{1}{m}\right)^3-...} \\ & \propto \frac{2+\frac{2}{m}}{1+\frac{1}{2m}} = \frac{4m+4}{2m+1} = 2 + \frac{2}{2m+1} \\ \Rightarrow \log_n {(n+1)} & \propto \frac{1}{2n-1} \end{aligned}

This means that the larger the n n the smaller the log n ( n + 1 ) \log_n {(n+1)} . Therefore, the smallest option is ( E ) log 2019 2020 \boxed{(\text{E})} \space \log_{2019} {2020}

Moderator note:

Your statement is only true for asymptotic behavior. There might be local variances which affect how the fractions actually behave.

You have to be very careful in the first line. It is not immediately apparent that "As the value of log ( m + 2 ) log ( m + 1 ) \frac{ \log (m+2) } { \log (m+1) } increases, then so would the value of log ( m + 2 ) log m log ( m + 1 ) log m \frac{ \log (m+2) - \log m } { \log (m+1) - \log m } . There are several aspects of this statement that needs to be proved.

This is a very nice attempt, despite the considerations that you have to make.

Gambler Ho - 5 years ago

please explain the line after (log(1+2/m))/(log(1+1/m))..

Prokash Shakkhar - 4 years, 9 months ago

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They are Maclaurin series of ln ( 1 + x ) \ln(1+x) .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 9 months ago

What is asymptotic behavior???

Prayas Rautray - 3 years, 11 months ago

Asymptotic is an infinitely long line perpendicular to x axis

Iqbal Kour - 2 years, 10 months ago

How did you say that larger the n + 1 n \frac{n+1}{n} ,
larger will be l o g ( n + 1 ) l o g n \frac{log(n+1)}{log n} ?

Please explain!!!

Akhil Bansal - 5 years, 10 months ago

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Sorry, it was just intuition. I have provided another solution.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 5 years, 10 months ago
Sahil Kukreja
Jan 11, 2016

Calculus Method:- 1 1 2 2 3 3 4 4 5 5

In other words, we can show that log_x(x+1) is a decreasing function by considering its derivative. This has been shown at f'(x) because xln(x) is an increasing function.

Gambler Ho - 5 years ago
Kevin Guo
Jan 1, 2017

This is a very intuitive solution. Take these three numbers: l o g 2 3 log_2 3 , l o g 3 4 log_3 4 , and l o g 4 5 log_4 5 . You will notice that the first number l o g 2 3 log_2 3 has to have a larger exponent in order to yield a result of +1. But as the base increases, the exponent power, or the logarithm, needed to have a result 1 greater than base decreases. So that means the logarithm expression decreases with increased bases. Therefore, option E , l o g 2019 2020 log _{2019} 2020 , would have the smallest value.

Hadia Qadir
Aug 4, 2015

Option E A=1.000065212 B=1.000065175 C=1.000065139 D=1.000065102 E=1.000065066

now that's cheating Sir, nobody said calculators are allowed.

but if you can do this by hand that's impressive

Oximas omar - 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Alan T
Dec 28, 2017

Generalize. Prove log n-1 n > log n n+1 with n in a close neighbour hood of 2015 and 2020 and we see that it has to be the last one E)

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