Cool Circles Problem

Geometry Level 3

In the right triangle above and altitude is drawn from the right angle to the hypotenuse. Circles are inscribed within each of the smaller triangles.

What is the distance between the centers of these circles?

8 8 50 \sqrt{50} 7 7 5 5

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Δ A C B \Delta ACB is a right triangle with side lengths A C : C B : B A AC:CB:BA in the ratio 3 : 4 : 5 3:4:5 . By similarity, triangles Δ A D C \Delta ADC and Δ C D B \Delta CDB are right triangles with the same side length ratio as Δ A C B . \Delta ACB.

Now as the inradius of a 3 / 4 / 5 3/4/5 triangle is 1 1 , the inradii of triangles Δ A D C \Delta ADC and Δ C D B \Delta CDB will scale up to values of 3 3 and 4 4 , respectively.

Now draw a line parallel to A B AB passing through P P , and let this line intersect the perpendicular from Q Q to A B AB at M M . Then Δ P M Q \Delta PMQ is a right triangle with side lengths P M = 3 + 4 = 7 PM = 3 + 4 = 7 and Q M = 4 3 = 1. QM = 4 - 3 = 1. The hypotenuse P Q PQ will then have length 7 2 + 1 2 = 50 . \sqrt{7^{2} + 1^{2}} = \boxed{\sqrt{50}}.

The two circles are not tangential, I made a mistake in thinking they are!!

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 3 months ago

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me too.. I was a bit hasty and forgot to consider the (4-3) part

Aditya Pappula - 6 years, 3 months ago

Yes, I thought that too initially and almost chose 7 7 as the answer before giving it a second thought. I found it easier to solve after inverting Δ A C B \Delta ACB so that A B AB was the base.

It does make me think of the question of how to maximize the combined areas of two (non-overlapping) circles drawn inside a given triangle. My first instinct is that one of the circles would have to be the incircle, and then the second would be inscribed in the largest of the three remaining regions, but I would have to do a proof to confirm that instinct.

Brian Charlesworth - 6 years, 3 months ago

I too did the same mistake. :(

Kislay Raj - 6 years, 3 months ago

Yes I found it very misleading

Curtis Clement - 6 years, 3 months ago
Ercole Suppa
Jan 5, 2016

The altitude divide the triangle in two rigth triangles with sides b 1 = 9 b_1=9 , c 1 = 12 c_1=12 , a 1 = 15 a_1=15 and b 2 = 12 b_2=12 , c 2 = 16 c_2=16 , a 2 = 20 a_2=20 respectively (easy to prove by using Euclid's theorems!). The inradii of these triangles are r 1 = b 1 + c 1 a 1 2 = 3 r 2 = b 2 + c 2 a 2 2 = 4 r_1=\frac{b_1+c_1-a_1}{2}=3 \qquad r_2=\frac{b_2+c_2-a_2}{2}=4
so the distance between the centers of these circles is d = ( r 1 + r 2 ) 2 + ( r 2 r 1 ) 2 = 2 ( r 1 2 + r 2 2 ) = 50 d=\sqrt{\left(r_1+r_2\right)^2+\left(r_2-r_1\right)^2}=\sqrt{2(r_1^2+ r_2^2)}=\boxed{\sqrt{50}}

The problem can be generalized in the following way. Consider a right triangle with legs b , c b,c and ipothenuse a a and inradius r r . Let O 1 ( r 1 ) O_1(r_1) and O 2 ( r 2 ) O_2(r_2) be incircles of triangles obtained drawing the altitude from the right angle to the hypotenuse. Then we have

O 1 O 2 = r 2 O_1O_2=r\sqrt{2}

r 1 2 + r 2 2 = r 2 r_1^2+r_2^2=r^2

r 1 + r 2 + r = h r_1+r_2+r=h

where h h denote altitude from the right angle to the hypotenuse

The proof is easy (Is similar to the solution of the problem.)

In our problem with b = 15 b=15 and c = 20 c=20 we have

a = 25 , r = b + c a 2 = 5 O 1 O 2 = 5 2 a=25, \quad r=\frac{b+c-a}{2}=5 \quad \implies \quad O_1O_2=5\sqrt{2}

Ercole Suppa - 5 years, 5 months ago

Actually you have written d= 2 * sqrt (r1 r2) incorrect. It is actually d=sqrt(2 (r1^2+r2^2)).

Sudhanshu Mishra - 5 years, 4 months ago
Saleem Hd
Feb 19, 2015

we have : AC=15 , BC=20 ; SO : AB=25 and now by using Euclid's theory : AC × BC = AB × CD →CD=12

FROM ACD→AD=9→BD=25-9=16

the radius of any circle inside any triangle is : r²={(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)/s) where s=(a+b+c)/2

by using it we got : the radius of the circle Q=3×\sqrt { 2 } as well : the radius of the circle P = 3 now the distance that is needed (PQ)=r(Q)+r(P)=3+3×\sqrt{2}} =7.2 and that result almost equal to \sqrt{50}

The distance d d between the centers of two circles inscribed by two parts (obtained by dropping a perpendicular from right vertex to the hypotenuse) of a right triangle having orthogonal sides a a & b b is given by the general formula

d = a + b a 2 + b 2 2 \boxed{d=\frac{a+b-\sqrt{a^2+b^2}}{\sqrt2}}

As per given problem, setting a = 15 a=15 & b = 20 b=20 in above general formula

d = 15 + 20 1 5 2 + 2 0 2 2 = 35 25 2 = 5 2 = 50 d=\frac{15+20-\sqrt{15^2+20^2}}{\sqrt2}=\frac{35-25}{\sqrt2}=5\sqrt2=\sqrt{50}

bahut badhiya ,, good

Arjun Ray - 5 months, 2 weeks ago

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