A system of two symmetrical, identical, water-filled jars is fixed on a turntable. Each jar has a cork—attached to the bottom by a thread—floating vertically.
What will happen to the corks when the turntable starts rotating?
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Yup. That's it.
Since the water is an incompressible fluid and its density doesn't change, a pressure gradient acting towards the center of the turntable can't exist in the still water (I mean water not moving relative to the cork), so I can only assume that the water circulates around the cork, when the centripetal force on the cork is provided by different circulation speeds i.e. static pressures (from the Bernoulli equation). That would explain the tilt of the cork towards the center of the turntable because narrower passage must be where the water goes faster.
Yep, that was more or less my thinking. I've heard that if you float a helium balloon in a car and brake suddenly, the balloon will move backwards for a similar reason.
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Yep, it floats towards the direction of acceleration. It should also be pushed downwards in an elevator accelerating downwards, but I'm not sure how much it would be effected.
If the jar is less than half full, the cork will lean left since not enough water to float it past the jar center.
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Not necessarily half, just so long as the depth of the water is less than the length of the string (accounting for the tilt of the water surface during spinning).
Thank you, I didn't know that.
Actually, the question states "...when the turn table starts moving?" First you have to overcome the inertia which resists movement. Does that qualify as a moving. When you start to jump off a bridge, are you on the bridge or off the bridge? I think better wording would reference a situation in which the speed of rotation is constant or after a time once the rotation has started. I believe that is what is intended.
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That's a fair point. At the instance when it starts moving, the corks will move towards the direction of motion, since the water had been at rest.
All the other solutions to this problem are pretty good, I just wanted to introduce the theory of negative mass ( relative), which behaves opposite to normal mass. As the corks act as negative mass in the denser water, the corks would move towards the centre, as opposed to normal mass which would turn away from the centre.
Could you post some more examples of this concept
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It can also be useful when calculating moments of inertia of objects with holes. For example, a disk with some circular cutouts. You can do the math as if the cutouts weren't there, and then add the moments of inertia of the negative mass cutouts. (Moments of inertia about the same axis are additive.)
Here is a nice video explaining the concept: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAJlg8MDAlU
Another example, easy to verify experimentally, is that a helium filled balloon will move towards the front of a car as it accelerates, as the denser air around will 'fall' to the back.
In order to counteract the force pushing them out, they will face inwards!
Downright illogical.
If you kick a soccer ball, you apply a force in the direction of your kick. However, the soccer ball does not move backwards towards you. While the soccer ball does apply a force on your foot, this does not mean that the soccer ball accelerates in the direction of your foot.
Completely wrong.
While you had a correct answer, the reasoning is completely wrong and misguided. The answer depends on bouancy, density, and rotational force. As the jar starts spinning the water pushes against the side of the jar due to inertia. But since the water is denser than the Cork, it, in a sense, pushes the Cork towards the center of the table to make more room for the water being compacted against the side.
Consider the water-filled jar as the frame of reference. All the forces on the cork in the vertical direction are balanced due to the tension in the thread. When the turntable starts to rotate, for an observer inside the jar, there is an additional centrifugal acceleration acting on the jar system directed radially outward. This accelerated frame of reference is equivalent to a scenario as if gravity is acting in the horizontal direction. So, now we have a new pressure gradient created in the water along the horizontal axis. Since the cork is less dense than water, there will be a buoyant force acting on the cork directed radially inward towards the center of the turntable. Hence, the cork will tilt towards the center of the turntable. A similar experiment can be done by tying a helium balloon to the floor of a car with a thread. When the car accelerates from rest, the balloon deflects forward and not backwards, because the buoyant force of the surrounding fluid (air) dominates the effect of inertia of rest of the balloon.
Less dense objects move towards the direction of less pressure.since the table is rotating,pressure is high at the outer region than inner region. Hence the cork will move to less pressure region i.e towards the center.
In questions of this kind I often find it useful to add a horizontal outward force, equal in magnitude to the necessary inward centripetal force, so that we now have equilibrium. The effective gravitational force is the resultant of this imaginary force and the actual gravity, so its direction is downwards and outwards. Since the cork is lighter than the water the string will be in the opposite direction, i.e. upwards and inwards.
An alternative version of this question asked which direction the cork would move if the jars were only 1/3 full.
The suspended corks are buoyant in the water. This generates a force on the corks that is opposite in direction to the net force on the water.
At the beginning of the experiment (no rotation) the only force acting on the water is its weight, pointing downwards. The corks go up as far as they can.
When the table is rotating, centripetal force is acting on the water, pushing it outwards. The net force on the water changes direction to down- and outwards, the net force on the corks to up- and inwards.
It will move under inertia like this.
This is because when the table is rotating,the fluid inside the jar will be pushed outwards due to inertia.Since the cork is floating,the buoyant force acting on it must be greater than the weight of the cork.Imagine that the cork moves outwards with the fluid simultaneously,the fluid in it will be slightly compressed at the further side of the inner wall of the jar.As the fluid has been slightly compressed,the density of the fluid at the further side of the inner wall of the jar increases,hence the cork will only be required to displace a small amount of fluid in order to generate sufficient buoyant force to overcome the effect of inertia.Hence,the amount of fluid being displaced by the cork decreases and the cork seems to move inwards which I should towards the centre of the turntable
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The water is denser than the corks. As the turntable spins, the water will be pushed outwards with more force than the corks, thus displacing the corks towards the centre.