Crazy Cubes...and Fractions

Algebra Level 4

Find m m if 1 3 + 3 3 + 5 3 + . . . + ( 2 m 1 ) 3 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 = 721 800 \frac{1^3+3^3+5^3+...+(2m-1)^3}{2^3+4^3+6^3+...+(2m)^3}=\frac{721}{800} .


The answer is 19.

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13 solutions

Ajay Maity
Dec 23, 2013

Before I start with the problem, I suggest we should all remember the 3 3 summation equations. They are:

1 + 2 + 3 + . . . . . + n = n ( n + 1 ) 2 1 + 2 + 3 + ..... + n = \frac{n(n + 1)}{2}

1 2 + 2 2 + 3 2 + . . . . . + n 2 = n ( n + 1 ) ( 2 n + 1 ) 6 1^{2} + 2^{2} + 3^{2} + ..... + n^{2} = \frac{n(n + 1)(2n+1)}{6}

1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + . . . . . + n 3 = n 2 ( n + 1 ) 2 4 1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ..... + n^{3} = \frac{n^{2}(n + 1)^{2}}{4}

Now, coming to our problem, we have

1 3 + 3 3 + 5 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m 1 ) 3 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 = 721 800 \frac{1^{3} + 3^{3} + 5^{3} + ..... + (2m -1)^{3}}{2^{3} + 4^{3} + 6^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3}} = \frac{721}{800}

The numerator can be rewritten as,

( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + 4 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) ( 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + 8 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 = 721 800 \frac{(1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + 4^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3}) - (2^{3} + 4^{3} + 6^{3} + 8^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3})}{2^{3} + 4^{3} + 6^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3}} = \frac{721}{800}

( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + 4 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ( 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + 8 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 = 721 800 \frac{(1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + 4^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3})}{2^{3} + 4^{3} + 6^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3}} - \frac{(2^{3} + 4^{3} + 6^{3} + 8^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3})}{2^{3} + 4^{3} + 6^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3}} = \frac{721}{800}

( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + 4 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 1 = 721 800 \frac{(1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + 4^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3})}{2^{3} + 4^{3} + 6^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3}} - 1 = \frac{721}{800}

( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + 4 3 + . . . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) 2 3 ( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + . . . . . + ( m ) 3 ) 1 = 721 800 \frac{(1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + 4^{3} + ..... + (2m)^{3})}{2^{3}(1^{3} + 2^{3} + 3^{3} + ..... + (m)^{3})} - 1 = \frac{721}{800}

Apply the formula of sum of cubes, we have

( 2 m ) 2 ( 2 m + 1 ) 2 4 2 3 ( m ) 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 4 1 = 721 800 \frac{\frac{(2m)^{2}(2m + 1)^{2}}{4}}{2^{3}\frac{(m)^{2}(m + 1)^{2}}{4}} - 1 = \frac{721}{800}

( 2 m ) 2 ( 2 m + 1 ) 2 2 3 ( m ) 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 1 = 721 800 \frac{(2m)^{2}(2m + 1)^{2}}{2^{3}(m)^{2}(m + 1)^{2}} - 1 = \frac{721}{800}

( 2 m + 1 ) 2 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 1 = 721 800 \frac{(2m + 1)^{2}}{2(m + 1)^{2}} - 1 = \frac{721}{800}

( 2 m + 1 ) 2 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 = 721 800 + 1 \frac{(2m + 1)^{2}}{2(m + 1)^{2}} = \frac{721}{800} + 1

( 2 m + 1 ) 2 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 = 1521 800 \frac{(2m + 1)^{2}}{2(m + 1)^{2}} = \frac{1521}{800}

( 2 m + 1 ) 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 = 1521 400 \frac{(2m + 1)^{2}}{(m + 1)^{2}} = \frac{1521}{400}

Taking square root on both sides,

2 m + 1 m + 1 = 39 20 \frac{2m + 1}{m + 1} = \frac{39}{20}

Cross-multiply,

40 m + 20 = 39 m + 39 40m + 20 = 39m + 39

m = 19 m = 19

That's the answer!

good one...same way...

Amlan Mishra - 7 years, 3 months ago
William Zhang
Dec 23, 2013

The formula for the sum of the first n n perfect cubes is ( n ( n + 1 ) 2 ) 2 (\frac{n(n+1)}{2})^2 .

1 3 + 3 3 + . . . + ( 2 m 1 ) 3 2 3 + 4 3 + . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 = ( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) ( 2 3 + 4 3 + . . . ( 2 m ) 3 ) 2 3 ( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + . . . + m 3 ) = ( ( 2 m ) ( 2 m + 1 ) / 2 ) 2 8 ( ( m ) ( m + 1 ) / 2 ) 2 8 ( ( m ) ( m + 1 ) / 2 ) 2 = ( 4 m 2 + 2 m ) 2 8 ( m 2 + m ) 2 ) 8 ( m 2 + m ) 2 = 721 800 \frac{1^3+3^3+...+(2m-1)^3}{2^3+4^3+...+(2m)^3}=\frac{(1^3+2^3+3^3+...+(2m)^3)-(2^3+4^3+...(2m)^3)}{2^3(1^3+2^3+3^3+...+m^3)}=\frac{((2m)(2m+1)/2)^2-8((m)(m+1)/2)^2}{8((m)(m+1)/2)^2}=\frac{(4m^2+2m)^2-8(m^2+m)^2)}{8(m^2+m)^2}=\frac{721}{800}

( 4 m + 2 ) 2 8 ( m + 1 ) 2 ) 8 ( m + 1 ) 2 = 721 800 \frac{(4m+2)^2-8(m+1)^2)}{8(m+1)^2}=\frac{721}{800}

Simplifying the expression, then cross-multiplying, then moving all the terms to the LHS yields a quadratic equation. Solving the equation gets m= 19 \boxed{19}

Noah Singer
Dec 24, 2013

First, we must know the formula for the sum of cubes. The sum of a sequence of cubes 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + . . . + m 3 1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + m^3 is equal to ( m ( m + 1 ) 2 ) 2 \left(\frac{m(m+1)}{2}\right)^2 . We need to reduce both sides of the fraction to such a sequence. The denominator of the fraction, 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 2^3 + 4^3 + 6^3 + ... + (2m)^3 , can be written out as the sum of cubes by taking out the common factor of 2 3 = 8 2^3 = 8 , so the value is 8 ( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + . . . + m 3 ) 8(1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + m^3) . Using our formula for the sum of cubes, the simplified value of the denominator is 8 ( m ( m + 1 ) 2 ) 2 8\left(\frac{m(m+1)}{2}\right)^2 .

Now for the numerator, which is slightly harder. It can be expressed as the sum of the cubes from 1 1 to 2 m 2m minus the sum of even cubes from 1 1 to 2 m 2m (the denominator), which is eight times the sum of cubes from 1 1 to m m . If we simplify using our formula for the sum of cubes, we get ( 2 m ( 2 m + 1 ) 2 ) 2 8 ( m ( m + 1 ) 2 ) \left(\frac{2m(2m+1)}{2}\right)^2 - 8\left(\frac{m(m+1)}{2}\right) , which further simplifies to m 2 ( 2 m + 1 ) 2 2 m 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 m^2(2m+1)^2-2m^2(m+1)^2 .

Let's regroup. The equation we have right now is:

m 2 ( 2 m + 1 ) 2 2 m 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 2 m 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 = 721 800 \dfrac{m^2(2m+1)^2-2m^2(m+1)^2}{2m^2(m+1)^2} = \dfrac{721}{800}

Next, we cross-multiply the fraction to get 800 ( m 2 ( 2 m + 1 ) 2 2 m 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 ) = 1442 m 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 800(m^2(2m+1)^2-2m^2(m+1)^2) = 1442m^2(m+1)^2 . We simplify by expanding and combining like terms (not enough space here to show) to get a quartic polynomial, 158 m 4 2884 m 3 2242 m 2 = 0 158m^4-2884m^3-2242m^2=0 . We solve this equation by dividing out m 2 m^2 (and note that m = 0 m = 0 is also a solution to this equation, but it doesn't work for our problem). We get a quadratic for which the solutions are 59 79 \dfrac{-59}{79} , 0 0 , and 19 19 , but obviously only one of those can be our answer, and since m m must be a positive integer (in order for us to sum up cubes to it), we get the solution m = 19 \boxed{m = 19} . (phew, that was wordy.)

Israel Smith
Dec 23, 2013

Look at this pattern: (1³/2³)=1/8, (1³+3³)/(2³+4³) = (1+6)/(8+10), (1³+3³+5³)/(2³+4³+6³) = (1+6+10)/(8+10+14) We must find the sum: [1+6+10+...+(4m+2)][/[8+10+14+18+...+(4m+6)]

By Sum of Arithmetic Progression:

= (2m²-1)/(2m²+4m+2) = 721/800

Solve a equation above and:

m =19

You have no proof that your pattern holds true for all values of m m .

William Zhang - 7 years, 5 months ago
Pratyush Agarwal
Dec 30, 2013

1 3 + 3 3 . . . . . 2 3 + 4 3 . . . . = 721 800 \frac{1^3+3^3.....}{2^3+4^3....}=\frac{721}{800}

Applying Componendo and Dividendo

1 3 + 2 3 . . . . . 2 3 + 4 3 . . . . = 1521 800 \frac{1^3+2^3.....}{2^3+4^3....}=\frac{1521}{800}

1 3 + 2 3 . . . . . 2 3 ( 1 3 + 2 3 . . . . . m 3 ) = 1521 800 \frac{1^3+2^3.....}{2^3(1^3+2^3.....m^3)}=\frac{1521}{800}

( 2 m + 1 ) 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 = 1521 400 \frac{(2m+1)^2}{(m+1)^2}=\frac{1521}{400}

( 2 m + 1 ) ( m + 1 ) = 39 20 \frac{(2m+1)}{(m+1)}=\frac{39}{20}

m = 19 m=\boxed{19}

Bhargav Das
Dec 23, 2013

The steps to do it are as follows:

Step 1 : Add ( 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) = x (2^3+4^3+6^3+...+(2m)^3)=x to the N r N^r or make the N r N^r as ( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + 4 3 + . . . + ( 2 m 1 ) 3 + ( 2 m ) 3 ) ( 2 3 + 4 3 + 6 3 + . . . + ( 2 m ) 3 ) (1^3+2^3+3^3+4^3+...+(2m-1)^3+(2m)^3)-(2^3+4^3+6^3+...+(2m)^3) .

We get the expression as: ( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + 4 3 + . . . + ( 2 m 1 ) 3 + ( 2 m ) 3 ) x x \frac {(1^3+2^3+3^3+4^3+...+(2m-1)^3+(2m)^3)-x}{x}

Step 2 : In x x we notice there is a factor common to every term which is 2 3 2^3 . Taking common we get:

x = 2 3 ( 1 3 + 2 3 + 3 3 + . . . + ( m ) 3 ) x= 2^3(1^3+2^3+3^3+...+(m)^3)

Step 3 : We use the formula [ n ( n + 1 ) 2 ] 2 [\frac {n(n+1)}{2}]^{2} for finding the sum of cubes of first n n consecutive integers starting from 1 3 1^3 ,then 2 3 2^3 and so on.

Step 4 : We can easily evaluate m m now as we get a linear equation in variable m m ,solving which yields m = 19 m=\boxed{19} .

In Step 1 , by ''we get the expression as" I mean actually the Left-hand Expression .

Bhargav Das - 7 years, 5 months ago
Budi Utomo
Dec 23, 2013

We must know if 1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + n^3 = [n(n+1)/2]^2. The problem above can change into {1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + (2m)^3} - {2^3 + 4^3 + 6^3 + ... + (2m)^3}/ 2^3 + 4^3 + 6^3 + ... + (2m)^3 = 721/800. ----> {[1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + (2m)^3] / [2^3 + 4^3 + 6^3 + ... + (2m)^3]} - 1 = 721/800 ----> {[1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + (2m)^3] / [2^3 + 4^3 + 6^3 + ... + (2m)^3]} = 1521/800 ----> {[1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + (2m)^3] / 2^3[1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + m^3]} = 1521/800 ----> {[1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + (2m)^3] / 8[1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + m^3]} = 1521/800 -----> {[1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + (2m)^3] / [1^3 + 2^3 + 3^3 + ... + m^3]} = 1521/100 ----> {[2m/2.(2m+1)]^2}/{[m/2.(m+1)]^2} = 1521/100 -----> {2(2m+1)/(m+1)}^2 = (39/10)^2 ----> (4m+2)/(m+1) = 39/10 ----> 40m + 20 = 39m + 39 ----> m = 39 - 20 ---> m = 19. Answer : 19

Solution with the C Programming Language !

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#include <stdio.h>
#include <math.h>
#include <string.h>

int main()
{

double s=0,m=1,a=0,b=0,d=.90125;

/*As 721/800=.90125*/

while(m>-5)
{

a+=pow(m,3);
b+=pow(m+1,3);
s=a/b;
if(s==d){break;}
m+=2;
}

printf("The value of m = %.0lf",(m+1)/2);
printf("\n\n");

return 0;
}

Noel Lo
Jun 11, 2015

@Hahn Lheem , nice problem!

Shiv Gaur
Dec 25, 2013

One approach is to find the algebraic sums of the numerator and denominator separately and set it up in an equation and solve it. Here that turns out to be n^2(2n^2-1)/2n^2(1+n)^2 =721/800 Solving this we get two answers but discard the negative fraction one and keep the positive one which is 19.

Pls read "n" as "m"

Shiv Gaur - 7 years, 5 months ago
Raj Magesh
Dec 25, 2013

The general term of the series in the numerator is t m = ( 2 m 1 ) 3 t_m = \left(2m - 1\right)^{3} . Hence, the numerator itself is given by:

S m = i = 1 m ( 2 m 1 ) 3 S_m = \sum\limits_{i = 1}^m \left(2m - 1\right)^{3}

S m = i = 1 m ( 8 m 3 12 m 2 + 6 m 1 ) \Rightarrow S_m = \sum\limits_{i = 1}^m \left(8m^{3} - 12m^{2} + 6m - 1\right)

S m = 8 i = 1 m m 3 12 i = 1 m m 2 + 6 i = 1 m m i = 1 m 1 \Rightarrow S_m = 8\sum\limits_{i = 1}^m m^3 - 12\sum\limits_{i = 1}^m m^2 + 6\sum\limits_{i = 1}^m m - \sum\limits_{i = 1}^m 1

S m = 8 ( m ( m + 1 ) 2 ) 2 12 ( m ( m + 1 ) ( 2 m + 1 ) 6 ) + 6 m ( m + 1 ) 2 m \Rightarrow S_m = 8\left(\dfrac{m(m + 1)}{2}\right)^{2} - 12\left(\dfrac{m(m + 1)(2m + 1)}{6}\right) + 6\dfrac{m(m + 1)}{2} - m

S m = m 2 ( 2 m 2 1 ) \Longrightarrow S_m = m^{2}\left(2m^{2} - 1\right)

Now, the general term of the series in the denominator is t m = ( 2 m ) 3 t_m = \left(2m\right)^{3} . Hence, the denominator itself is given by:

S m = i = 1 m ( 2 m ) 3 S_m = \sum\limits_{i = 1}^m \left(2m\right)^{3}

S m = 8 i = 1 m m 3 \Rightarrow S_m = 8\sum\limits_{i = 1}^m m^{3}

S m = 8 ( m ( m + 1 ) 2 ) 2 \Rightarrow S_m = 8\left(\dfrac{m(m+1)}{2}\right)^{2}

S m = 2 m 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 \Longrightarrow S_m = 2m^{2}\left(m+1\right)^{2}

Dividing the numerator by the denominator, we get:

m 2 ( 2 m 2 1 ) 2 m 2 ( m + 1 ) 2 = 721 800 \dfrac{m^{2}\left(2m^{2} - 1\right)}{2m^{2}\left(m+1\right)^{2}} = \dfrac{721}{800}

79 m 2 1442 m 1121 = 0 \Longrightarrow 79m^{2} - 1442m - 1121 = 0

m = 19 \Rightarrow m = \boxed{19}

...It's a bit long, innit? :) I'm certain to find a shorter solution the moment I publish this one.

Manoj Kumar
Dec 23, 2013

Sum of cubes = (n(n+1)/2)^2;

sum of cubes of even numbers = 2*((n(n+1))^2);

sum of cubes of odd numbers = (n^2) ((2 (n^2))-1);

Alexander Sludds
Dec 23, 2013

Note that we can get the numerator of the LHS and put it in summation notation to show that i = 1 m ( 2 i 1 ) 3 = i = 1 m 8 i 3 12 i = 1 m i 2 + 6 i = 1 m i i = 1 m 1 \sum_{i=1}^m (2i-1)^3=\sum_{i=1}^m 8i^3 -12\sum_{i=1}^m i^2 +6\sum_{i=1}^m i -\sum_{i=1}^m 1 . Using the summation formulas mentioned in the notes at the end we find that this is all equal to 2 m 4 m 2 2m^4-m^2 . After applying the same method to the denominator and solving we find that m = 19 m=19 .

Formulas:

i = 1 n k = k n \sum_{i=1}^n k=kn

i = 1 n i = i ( i = 1 ) 2 \sum_{i=1}^n i =\frac{i(i=1)}{2}

i = 1 n i 2 = i ( i + 1 ) ( 2 i + 1 ) 6 \sum_{i=1}^n i^2= \frac{i(i+1)(2i+1)}{6}

i = 1 n i 3 = i 2 ( i + 1 ) 2 4 \sum_{i=1}^n i^3=\frac{i^2(i+1)^2}{4}

(below formula is not used but is thrown in for good measure. Try proving all of these through induction if you can not already).

i = 1 n i 4 = i ( i + 1 ) ( 2 i + 1 ) ( 3 i 2 + 3 i 1 ) 30 \sum_{i=1}^n i^4= \frac{i(i+1)(2i+1)(3i^2+3i-1)}{30}

Sorry to jack your comment, but I'm surprised nobody posted a solution that I did which requires much less computation.

Let f : Z + Z + f : \mathbb{Z}^+ \to \mathbb{Z}^+ be a function that gives the sum of the first x x cubes. Then, we have that f ( x ) = ( x ( x + 1 ) 2 ) 2 f(x) = (\frac {x(x+1)}{2})^2 (It's a well known fact that the sum of the first x x integers squared is equal to the sum of the first x x odd squares -- can you prove it?).

Thus, to find the first x x even cubes, since this is just 8 8 times the sum of the first x x cubes, we find that it is equal to 8 f ( x ) 8f(x)

To find the first x x odd cubes, we take the sum of the first 2 x 2x cubes and then subtract the sum of the first x x cubes, or f ( 2 x ) 8 f ( x ) f(2x) - 8f(x) .

From there, we can solve the equation f ( 2 x ) 8 f ( x ) 8 f ( x ) = 721 800 f ( 2 x ) 8 f ( x ) = 1521 800 \large{\frac{f(2x) - 8f(x)}{8f(x)} = \frac{721}{800} \rightarrow \frac{f(2x)}{8f(x)} = \frac{1521}{800}} .

Substituting...

x 2 ( 2 x + 1 ) 2 2 x 2 ( x + 1 ) 2 = 1521 800 \large{\frac{x^2(2x+1)^2}{2x^2(x+1)^2} = \frac{1521}{800}}

( 2 x + 1 ) 2 ( x + 1 ) 2 = 1521 400 \large{\frac{(2x+1)^2}{(x+1)^2} = \frac{1521}{400}}

Take the square root of both sides:

2 x + 1 x + 1 = 39 20 \large{\frac{2x+1}{x+1} = \frac{39}{20}}

And so clearly, x = 19 x = 19 .

No computation required.

Motivations: I realized that 721 + 800 = 1521 721 + 800 = 1521 was a perfect square, but even if you don't have that number sense, it's always good to keep your expressions in a simple form to see if you can simplify things along the way. I hate brute forcing solutions and, in fact, a lot of questions that I know how to answer I don't if the only available method to me is brute force.

Michael Tong - 7 years, 5 months ago

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I was surprised to see no one did it this way too. It seemed to be the most straightforward method.

Trevor B. - 7 years, 5 months ago

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