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The real number x x satisfies x + 9 3 x 9 3 = 3 \sqrt [3]{x + 9} - \sqrt [3]{x - 9} = 3 . Find the value of x 2 x^2 .


The answer is 80.

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7 solutions

Alex Wang
Apr 14, 2015

Cube both sides and factor to get: 18 3 ( x + 9 ) ( x 9 ) 3 ( x + 9 3 x 9 3 ) = 27. 18 - 3\sqrt[3]{(x+9)(x-9)}(\sqrt[3]{x+9} - \sqrt[3]{x-9}) = 27.

Simplifying and substituting 3 for x + 9 3 x 9 3 \sqrt [3]{x + 9} - \sqrt [3]{x - 9} , we get: x 2 81 3 = 1. - \sqrt [3]{x^2 - 81} = 1.

From here, we simply cube both sides and add 81 to get x 2 = 80 x^2 = \boxed{80} .

If a-b-c=0 then a^3 -b^3-c^3= 3abc

Des O Carroll - 6 years, 2 months ago

Used the same method. With graphing calculator also I got 79.99999982. F o r x : x = ± 4 5 . For~x:~~~~ x=\pm 4 \sqrt5.

Niranjan Khanderia - 6 years, 1 month ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Apr 16, 2015

Let { x + 9 = ( a + b ) 3 = a 3 + 3 a 2 b + 3 a b 2 + b 3 . . . ( 1 ) x 9 = ( a b ) 3 = a 3 3 a 2 b + 3 a b 2 b 3 . . . ( 2 ) \space \begin{cases} x+9 = (a+b)^3 = a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3 &...(1) \\ x-9 = (a-b)^3 = a^3-3a^2b+3ab^2-b^3 &...(2) \end{cases}

x + 9 3 x 9 3 = ( a + b ) 3 3 ( a b ) 3 3 = ( a + b ) ( a b ) = 2 b = 3 b = 3 2 \Rightarrow \sqrt [3] {x+9} - \sqrt [3] {x-9} = \sqrt [3] {(a+b)^3} - \sqrt [3] {(a-b)^3} = (a+b)-(a-b) \\ \quad = 2b = 3 \quad \Rightarrow b = \dfrac {3}{2}

Eq. 1 - Eq. 2: 6 a 2 b + 2 b 3 = 18 9 a 2 + 27 4 = 18 a = ± 5 2 \space 6a^2b+2b^3 = 18 \quad \Rightarrow 9a^2 + \dfrac {27}{4} = 18 \quad \Rightarrow a = \pm \dfrac {\sqrt{5}}{2}

From Eq. 1:

x + 9 = ( a + b ) 3 = ( ± 5 + 3 2 ) 3 = ± 5 5 + 45 ± 27 5 + 27 8 = ± 32 5 + 72 8 = ± 4 5 + 9 \begin{aligned} x+9 & = (a+b)^3=\left( \dfrac {\pm \sqrt{5}+3}{2} \right)^3 = \dfrac {\pm 5\sqrt{5}+45\pm27\sqrt{5}+27}{8} \\ & = \dfrac {\pm 32\sqrt{5}+72}{8} = \pm 4\sqrt{5}+9 \end{aligned}

x = ± 4 5 x 2 = 80 \Rightarrow x = \pm 4\sqrt{5}\quad \Rightarrow x^2 = \boxed{80}

Jesús Manrique
Apr 18, 2015

My answer could be a little longer than the others, but I consider it's still functional:

Let's call x + 9 3 = a \sqrt [ 3 ]{ x+9 } =a and x 9 3 = b \sqrt [ 3 ]{ x-9 } =b .

So, the equation can be rewritten: a b = 3 a-b=3 .

Considering the fact that we're dealing with cubic roots, I used the factorization ( a b ) ( a 2 + a b + b 2 ) = a 3 b 3 \left( a-b \right) \left( { a }^{ 2 }+ab+{ b }^{ 2 } \right) ={ a }^{ 3 }-{ b }^{ 3 } .

For the sake of simplicity and clarity, I'll define F = a 2 + a b + b 2 F={ a }^{ 2 }+ab+{ b }^{ 2 } .

Multiplying both sides of equation by F, we obtain: a 3 b 3 = 3 F { a }^{ 3 }-{ b }^{ 3 }=3F .

The LHS can be simplified as follows: a 3 b 3 = ( x + 9 ) ( x 9 ) = 18 { a }^{ 3 }-{ b }^{ 3 }=\left( x+9 \right) -\left( x-9 \right) =18 .

Then, the equation reduces to: F = 6 F=6 .

We can stablish the non-linear two-equation system: { a b = 3 a 2 + a b + b 2 = 6 \begin{cases} a-b=3 \\ { a }^{ 2 }+ab+{ b }^{ 2 }=6 \end{cases}

There are many ways to solve it. The way I implemented was to rewrite conveniently the second equation, so it's possible substitute the first one into it:

a 2 2 a b + b 2 + 3 a b = 6 { a }^{ 2 }-2ab+{ b }^{ 2 }+3ab=6

( a b ) 2 + 3 a b = 6 { \left( a-b \right) }^{ 2 }+3ab=6

3 a b = 3 a b = 1 3ab=-3\quad \Rightarrow \quad ab=-1

Writing back the expressions of a and b, and multiplying the roots, we obtain:

x 2 81 3 = 1 x 2 81 = 1 x 2 = 80 \sqrt [ 3 ]{ { x }^{ 2 }-81 } =-1\quad \Rightarrow \quad { x }^{ 2 }-81=-1\quad \Rightarrow \quad \boxed { { x }^{ 2 }=80 }

Hope you enjoy this answer!

NOTE: This is my first contribution to this great community. Please, don't be so rude! :)

Great solution, up voted.

Jesus Ulises Avelar - 6 years, 1 month ago
Otto Bretscher
Apr 16, 2015

Our solution will require very little computation.

Recall the cubic formula: The solutions of t 3 + 3 q t 2 r = 0 t^3+3qt-2r=0 are t = q 3 + r 2 + r 3 q 3 + r 2 r 3 t=\sqrt[3]{\sqrt{q^3+r^2}+r}-\sqrt[3]{\sqrt{q^3+r^2}-r} , which is the "format" of the LHS of the given equation, with r = 9 r=9 and x = q 3 + r 2 3 x=\sqrt[3]{q^3+r^2} .

Our idea is to find the cubic f ( t ) = t 3 + 3 q t 18 f(t)=t^3+3qt-18 with f ( 3 ) = 0 f(3)=0 . We see that q = 1 q=-1 , and f ( t ) = t 3 3 t 18 f(t)=t^3-3t-18 . Now the cubic equation gives 80 + 9 3 80 9 3 = 3 \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{80}+9}-\sqrt[3]{\sqrt{80}-9}=3 , so that x = 80 x=\sqrt{80} and x 2 = 80 x^2=80 .

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Very rare to see a cubic formula implemented. Great job!

Damn nicely done

Nick Bryan - 6 years, 1 month ago

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Thank you Nick!

José Carlos Pereira - 6 years, 1 month ago
Ritam Baidya
Apr 15, 2015

WE SIMPLY whole cube both side getting 27 on the RHS..then (x+9)-(x-9)-3.cuberoot(x square - 81).(3)....as "a-b=3" see carefully..so 18 -{9.cube root (x square -81)} = 27...on simplifying -1=cube root(x square -81)......-1=x^2 - 81..........x^2=80...is ur ans

Istiak Reza
Apr 16, 2015

we can rewrite this equation as (x+ 9)^ 1/3 = 3 + (x-9)^ 1/3 now we cube both sides , getting X+9 = 27+x -9 +3.3 (( x -9) ^ 1/3) ( 3 + ( x-9 ) ^ 1/3)) we can substitute the left side of the 1st equation and cancel Which are needed to get 9+9 ( x ^2-81)^ 1/3 =0 cancelling 9 we get (x^2-81)^ 1/3 = -1. now we can cube and solve for x^2 to get x^2 = 80

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