Cubic with integer solutions

Algebra Level 3

Let f ( x ) = x 3 a x 2 + b x b f(x) = x^3 - ax^2 + bx - b for some positive integers a a and b . b. If the roots of f ( x ) = 0 f(x)=0 are distinct positive integers, what is the value of a + b ? a + b?


The answer is 47.

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Steven Yuan
Jan 16, 2015

Let the roots be r 1 , r 2 , r_1, r_2, and r 3 . r_3. From Vieta's, we get r 1 r 2 + r 2 r 3 + r 3 r 1 = b r_1r_2 + r_2r_3 + r_3r_1 = b and r 1 r 2 r 3 = b . r_1r_2r_3 = b. Dividing the first equation by the second yields

1 r 1 + 1 r 2 + 1 r 3 = 1. \frac{1}{r_1} + \frac{1}{r_2} + \frac{1}{r_3} = 1.

If we solve this equation for positive integers, our only solutions turn out to be ( 3 , 3 , 3 ) , ( 2 , 4 , 4 ) , ( 2 , 3 , 6 ) , (3, 3, 3), (2, 4, 4), (2, 3, 6), and permutations of these. Since r 1 r 2 r 3 , r_1 \neq r_2 \neq r_3, our polynomial must have roots 2 , 3 , 2, 3, and 6. 6. This immediately gives a = 2 + 3 + 6 = 11. a = 2 + 3 + 6 = 11. To find b b we use Vieta's to get b = r 1 r 2 r 3 = 2 ( 3 ) ( 6 ) = 36. b = r_1r_2r_3 = 2(3)(6) = 36. Thus, a + b = 11 + 36 = 47 . a + b = 11 + 36 = \boxed{47}.

How do you find the three solutions?I just noticed that (2,3,6) is one so I got the right answer.

Avraam Aneleitos - 6 years, 4 months ago

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WLOG, let r 1 r 2 r 3 . r_1 \leq r_2 \leq r_3. Notice that r 1 r_1 cannot be greater than 3 , 3, or else the greatest possible sum is 1 4 + 1 4 + 1 4 = 3 4 < 1. \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{4} = \frac{3}{4} < 1. Obviously, r 1 1. r_1 \neq 1.

If r 1 = 3 , r_1 = 3, our only solution is ( 3 , 3 , 3 ) . (3, 3, 3).

If r 1 = 2 , r_1 = 2, we have

1 r 2 + 1 r 3 = 1 2 r 2 + r 3 r 2 r 3 = 1 2 2 ( r 2 + r 3 ) = r 2 r 3 r 2 r 3 2 r 2 2 r 3 = 0 ( r 2 2 ) ( r 3 2 ) = 4. \begin{aligned} \frac{1}{r_2} + \frac{1}{r_3} &= \frac{1}{2} \\ \frac{r_2 + r_3}{r_2r_3} &= \frac{1}{2} \\ 2(r_2 + r_3) &= r_2r_3 \\ r_2r_3 - 2r_2 - 2r_3 &= 0 \\ (r_2 - 2)(r_3 - 2) &= 4. \end{aligned}

Since r 2 r_2 and r 3 r_3 are integers, we get r 2 = 4 , r 3 = 4 r_2 = 4, r_3 = 4 and r 2 = 3 , r 3 = 6. r_2 = 3, r_3 = 6. So, we get the solutions ( 2 , 4 , 4 ) (2, 4, 4) and ( 2 , 3 , 6 ) . (2, 3, 6).

Steven Yuan - 6 years, 4 months ago

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I see, thanks for making that clear.

Avraam Aneleitos - 6 years, 4 months ago

Nice explaination , I did in brute force method . :)

Deepanshu Gupta - 6 years, 3 months ago

Did the exact same :)

Vikram Waradpande - 6 years, 4 months ago

Really nice application of Vieta's formulas.

Jake Lai - 6 years, 4 months ago

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