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If x 2 x 1 { x }^{ 2 }-x-1 is a factor of z x 20 + y x 19 + 1 z{ x }^{ 20 }+y{ x }^{ 19 }+1 then find y y

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The answer is 6765.

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2 solutions

U Z
Jan 1, 2015

Since x 2 x 1 x^{2}-x-1 is a factor of the first polynomial p x 17 + q x 16 + 1 px^{17}+qx^{16}+1 it means that the roots of the first equation are also the roots of the second polynomial.We can solve the first equation by quadratic formula to find :

x 1 = 1 + 5 2 = a , x 2 = 1 5 2 = b x_{1}= \dfrac{1 + \sqrt{5}}{2} =a , x_{2} = \dfrac{1 - \sqrt{5}}{2} = b

f ( x ) = z x 20 + y x 19 + 1 f(x) = zx^{20} + yx^{19} + 1

f ( a ) = z a 20 + y a 19 + 1 f(a) = za^{20} + ya^{19} + 1

f ( b ) = z b 20 + y b 19 + 1 f(b) = zb^{20} + yb^{19} + 1

Both are linear equations , thus applying cross multiplication method

z a 19 b 19 = y b 20 a 20 = 1 a 20 b 19 b 20 a 19 \dfrac{z}{a^{19} - b^{19}} = \dfrac{y}{b^{20} - a^{20}} = \dfrac{1}{a^{20}b^{19} - b^{20}a^{19}}

y a 20 b 20 = 1 a 19 b 19 ( a b ) \dfrac{y}{a^{20} - b^{20}} = \dfrac{1}{a^{19}b^{19}(a - b)}

Now,

1 + 5 2 × 1 5 2 = 1 \dfrac{1 + \sqrt{5}}{2} \times \dfrac{1 - \sqrt{5}}{2} = -1

a 19 b 19 = 1 a^{19}b^{19} = -1

y = a 20 b 20 ( a b ) y = \dfrac{a^{20} - b^{20}}{(a - b)}

F n = φ n ψ n φ ψ F_{n}=\dfrac{\varphi^{n}-\psi^{n}}{\varphi-\psi} (where φ = a , ψ = b \varphi =a , \psi = b )

F n = F n 1 + F n 2 , F 1 = 1 = F 2 F_{n} = F_{n-1} + F_{n-2}~ ,~~ F_{1}=1 = F_{2}

Thus we have to find F 20 w h i c h i s e q u a l t o 6765 F_{20} ~ which~is~equal~to~6765

y = 6765 \boxed{y = 6765}


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Nice solution . exceptional . And stop resharing it again and again bro.(am i right?)

Gautam Sharma - 6 years, 5 months ago

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I liked it too much

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

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HAAHAAA i know BTW have you solved this . You should try and you will like it too. (i liked it very much LOL!) And this set too.

Gautam Sharma - 6 years, 5 months ago

Yup, pretty much the same method. Nice solution!

Jake Lai - 6 years, 5 months ago

When you applied the "cross multiplication" method, you should have gotten z a 19 b 19 = y b 20 a 20 = 1 a 20 b 19 b 20 a 19 . \frac{z}{a^{19} - b^{19}} = \frac{y}{b^{20} - a^{20}} = \frac{1}{a^{20} b^{19} - b^{20} a^{19}}. Then y = b 20 a 20 a 19 b 19 ( a b ) = a 20 b 20 a b = F 20 = 6765. y = \frac{b^{20} - a^{20}}{a^{19} b^{19} (a - b)} = \frac{a^{20} - b^{20}}{a - b} = F_{20} = 6765.

Jon Haussmann - 6 years, 5 months ago

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Yes you are right Sir , thanks for correcting me

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

Thanks! I have updated the answer back to 6765.

Sorry about the confusion.

Calvin Lin Staff - 6 years, 5 months ago

there's a problem

First when i put in -6765 it said the answer is wrong. :(

Aneesh Kundu - 6 years, 5 months ago

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@Calvin Lin will help you for marking your answer correct

Cheers @Aneesh Kundu (>‿◠)✌

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

Did it the same way although mine was a bit longer since I got stuck up at the initial stages.

A Former Brilliant Member - 6 years, 5 months ago

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You study in DPS do you know Hitarth Shah

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

I am not able to understand this how?

Approximate and true golden spirals. The green spiral is made from quarter-circles tangent to the interior of each square, while the red spiral is a Golden Spiral, a special type of logarithmic spiral. Overlapping portions appear yellow. The length of the side of one square divided by that of the next smaller square is the golden ratio.

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

( See this

shivamani patil - 6 years, 5 months ago

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Yes did it , just after this

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago

It seems to me, that in the case when not +1 but -1 is in the given polinomial the answer will be -6756. To doublecheck this I simply used the primitive procedure of finding the ratio.

Сергей Кротов - 6 years, 5 months ago

Dear Megh Choksi, I propose you to check you expression for y as a solution of the system of two linear equations. It seems to me, that you were wrong. I am very sorry.

Сергей Кротов - 6 years, 5 months ago

Mr. Megh Choksi, I am sorry, I didn't see Mr. Jon Haussmann's comment, and your answer to him. I was simply dissapointed when my correct answer 6765 was mentioned as incorrect.

Сергей Кротов - 6 years, 5 months ago

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Now your answer is marked correct Sir , don't be dissapointed

U Z - 6 years, 5 months ago
Carlos Victor
Jan 19, 2015

How x^2=x+1 then x^20 = 6765x+4181 and x^19 = 4181x+2584. Replacing the espression given found : x(6765z+4181y)+4181z+2584y+1.

We have the zero the expressions " 6765z+4181y" and " 4181z+2584y+1", which brings us y =6765.

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