If the two triangles above are congruent, equilateral triangles, which is greater, the total area of the three red regions or the total area of the six purple regions?
The circle in figure A is tangent to all sides of the triangle. The center circle of figure B is tangent to the other three circles, which are themselves tangent to the sides of the triangle; those four circles are all congruent.
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Nice solution! Looked at the pictures without reading and just saw straight away! Clear and helpful, good job!
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Thanks a bunch, actually that was my point ; writing solutions that do not require long exhausting description.
I agree, that's a great way of looking at it. Is there any quick/easy way of knowing for sure that the black triangle you've drawn does correctly split up the four circles?
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I am terribly sorry if my description did not explain it completely but i do it now. In fact, the big purple triangle is equilateral and all the 4 smaller triangles are equilateral and congruent with the side of 1/2 big triangle so the black triangle is tangent with all the circles.
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It's alright and sure, splitting up the triangle makes sense and it seems intuitive that it would be tangent, but I'm not sure that just because all the triangles are congruent that they should necessarily be tangential?
I agree with the solution here, but I'm wondering about one detail in the statement of the problem. Are we ever told that the four circles in B are congruent to each other? I see that they are tangent to each other and some are tangent to sides of the triangle. If those are the only details we know, then couldn't the center circle be larger or smaller than the other three? This would change the resulting purple areas, right?
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All 4 small triangles are congruent and equilateral with the side of 1/2 big purple triangle so the circles inside them must be congruent and in same size.
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Thank you for your reply. I wasn't meaning to single you out, because I came to my answer the same way you did, but then I was thinking about the wording of the question.
David Hairston has a post below here displaying diagrams of what I was trying to say in words. If these figures are possible based on the wording, then I think the correct answer should be the area in Figure B is less than or equal to the area in Figure A.
Nazanin Zareirad, well then you did it well!
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the mistake in the following analysis is that L is not the hypotenuse of the triangle cited. Sorry about that. Ed Gray
The proof is elegant, but would someone point out the error in the following analysis: Let the side of the triangle be s, and d be the distance from the center of the triangle to any vertex. By the law of cosines, s^2 = d^2 + d^2 -2d^2(cos(120) = 3d^2, so d = s/sqrt(3).Define x as shown,so that x = d - 3r. Define L to be the distance from a vertex on a side, so that x+ r, r, and L form a right triangle with L the hypotenuse, so that L^2 = r^2 + (r + x)^2.. Also, sine(30) = r/L = 1/2, so L = 2r.Then 4r^2 = r^2 + (r + x)^2, 3r^2 = (r +d -3r)^2, 3r^2 = (s/sqrt(3) - 2r)^2, r sqrt(3) = s/sqrt(3) - 2r, r(sqrt(3) + 2) = s/sqrt(3), r = s/sqrt(3) (sqrt(3) + 2)) = s/(3 + 2 sqrt(3)), or r = .1547s, r^2 = .02393s^2, and (4)(pi r^2) = area of 4 white circles = .30074s^2. In the left triangle, d^2 = r^2 + s^2/4, d^2 = s^2/3, so r^2 = s^2(1/3 - 1/4) = s^2/12, and the area of the big circle is Pi r^2 = pi s^2/12 = .2618s^2. Therefore, the four small white circles have a slightly larger area, so the blue area must be less than the pink. Ed Gray
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I would quibble with the wording in the problem statement, or perhaps more succinctly with the wording in the clarification, which was I believe was intended to make solutions more accessible ...
BTW, the wording of the clarification was revised, adding the comment that the four inner circles are congruent, while I was writing this commentary ... Yay! The reason for the revision, which I am not responsible for, is made clear by the following commentary.
@Daniel Willard ... The figures given in the problem imply but do not assert that in the second (i.e. purple) equilateral triangle the inner circles are congruent. If you assume this fact ( i.e. the four inner circles are congruent ) then you get the suggested correct answer. However, according to the wording in the clarification, you can have arrangements of inner circles which will fall between the two extremes outlined below. In Figure 1 below, the middle circle is the same size as the red triangle circle given in the problem. In this case the blue shaded area is obvious less than the red shaded area of the problem because of the addition of three more circles subtracting away area. On the other extreme, Figure 2 below, you can shrink the middle circle to its smallest size while growing the other three circles to their maximum size. In this case the yellow shaded area is also less than the red shaded area of the problem. In fact, the only time when the shaded areas of the two situations are equal is in the special case when the four inner circles are congruent! Otherwise, the four circle figure will have less shaded area than the one circle figure. Try this: in Figure 2 below, derive the exact radius of the three large circles relative to the side length of the equilateral triangle ( approximately 18.3% ). For a super challenge, derive the exact radius of the tiny inner circle in Figure 2 below.
Yes! Thank you for providing a visual for what I was trying to point out. I believe both of these cases are possible based on the wording of the problem, and as you pointed out. That would make the shaded area in Figure B less than or equal to the shaded area in Figure A.
Let each side of the overall triangle be x. If we drop a perpendicular from the center of the circle to each side ,say the base, it will bisect at the middle. The length of the perpendicular will be the radius of the incircle, r. Now if we join the center to the leftmost vertex , we get a 30-60-90 trng. Now to find r, 2*(r/x) = tan(30) = 1/sqrt(3)
r = x/(2*sqrt(3))
Therefore, area of the incircle = pi(r)^2 = pi x^2 / (2 sqrt(3))^2 = pi*x^2 / 12...(1)
Now, we would like to establish the area of each of the smaller incircles. If we join the midpoints of the 2 segments of the large trng (other than the base), we get a triangle which is similar to the large trng and the length of the base say y ((by similarity) is x/2. Again ,this is a 30-60-90 trng and by similar arguments , the radius of each small incircle = r2 = y/(2 sqrt(3)))) = x / (4 sqrt(3)) . So the area of the smaller incircles =pi x^2/(4 sqrt(3))^2 = pi x^2 / 48. Since there are 4 of these, the combined area of the 4 smaller circles= 4 pi x^2 / 48 = pi x^2/12...(2) which is the same as (1)
Therefore A(large incircle) = A(sum of areas of 4 smaller incircles).
Therefore A(Trng) - A(large incircle) = A(Trng) - A(sum of areas of 4 smaller incircles)
Sum of red regions = sum of purple regions
Hey,can you just explain how in second triangle,one triangle which you are talking about is having angle combination of 30,60 and 90.I would appreciate your help if you provide an image of the same.
Do we assume the four circles in the purple triangle are equal?
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Yes,you are right.Here,we have to assume that those four circles in the purple triangle are equal in area.
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Yes, the problem text now says: "those four circles are all congruent". But it didn't when I wrote my question. Thanks anyway.
Draw an equilateral triangle inside the large circle that touches the points where the circle hits the triangle (upside down versus the big red triangle. Do the same for each of the small circles. The ratio of the size of each triangle to its circle is constant- you don't have to calculate it. So, if the four small triangles are bigger than the one big triangle, the small circles are bigger, and the remaining area is smaller. But if you fill the purple triangle with small triangles you will see that four small triangles fit in the big triangle you made. So the small triangles are the same area as the big triangle, the circles are the same area, and the remaining area is identical.
First, let us set the side lengths of each of the equilateral triangles equal to 1 . Setting any other side length will give us the third choice in the end, so it doesn't matter which side length we choose to use.
Let us first find the area of triangle A's incircle.
We know that the inradius of any equilateral triangle is 6 s 3 , where s is the side length of the triangle. Since s = 1 , our inradius is 6 3 . Using the circle area formula π ∗ r 2 where r = 6 3 , we know that the area of triangle A's incircle is 1 2 π .
Now, we find the area of triangle B's circles.
Since the center circle in equilateral triangle B is tangent to the three other circles, which in turn are tangent to the side lengths of the equilateral triangle, we can connect the midpoints of each side, giving us line segments that are tangent to the circles. This creates four equilateral triangles of equal area with four incircles of equal area respectively.
Since the side length of each of the smaller equilateral triangles is 2 1 , the inradius is 6 2 3 = 1 2 3 . Using the circle area formula π ∗ r 2 , where r = 6 3 , we know that the area of each of the smaller equilateral triangles' incircles is 4 8 π . Multiplying this by 4 for the total area of the smaller incircles in equilateral triangle B gives us 1 2 π , which is the same result along with the answer we received for triangle A's incircle. Since the areas of each of the white regions in equilateral triangles A and B are the same, the red region in triangle A has the same area as the purple region in triangle B.
Here is my solution which I think, it might be of interest. I made a mistake in the following (corrected) solution:
Let the side of the triangle be a, then the height of the triangle be h,
Then
h = a sin 60 = a sqrt(3)/2
and the radius of the circle in A be r, then
r = (h – r)sin 30 = (h – r)/2, 2r = h – r, r = h/3 = a sqrt(3)/2
Let the radius of each circle in B be r’, let the pink distance from the
right most vertex of B going to the center but does not extend inside
this circle be x, then
(3r’ + x)sin 60 = a/2 also r’ = (r’ + x)sin 30 = (r’ + x)/2
then,
2r’ = r’ + x, so r’ = x.
So,
4r’sqrt(3)/2 = a/2, r’ = a sqrt(3)/12.
Then, the area of the circle in A, is S, and the area of the 3 circles in is
T, then
S/T = r2/(4r’2 ) = (1/12)/(1/12) = 1, So, S = T, then the red area is
the same as the pink area.
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Triangle B is divided into 4 congruent triangles and all purple area are congruent with the area of 4 1 of red areas
So the sum of area in 2 triangles is equal.