Defining Local Extrema

Calculus Level 1

True or False?

The local extrema of f ( x ) f(x) are the points where f ( x ) = 0 f'(x)=0 .

True False

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Akhil Bansal
Dec 24, 2015

Counter Example : \Large \text{Counter Example :}
f ( x ) = x 3 \large \color{#D61F06}{f(x)} = x^3 f ( x ) = 3 x 2 f ( 0 ) = 0 \large \color{#D61F06}{f'(x)} = 3x^2 \Rightarrow \color{#D61F06}{f'(0)} = 0 But from the graph of x 3 x^3 (shown above), it has no local extremum \color{#3D99F6}{\text{local extremum}} at x = 0 x = 0

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As asked by Isaac, these two sets are not even subsets of each other.

So you have given an example of a function with a point x 0 x_0 where f ( x 0 ) = 0 f'(x_0)=0 and yet it is not a local extremum.

Is it also possible for a point x 0 x_0 to be a local extremum and yet f ( x 0 ) 0 f'(x_0)\neq 0 ?

Isaac Buckley - 5 years, 5 months ago

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At any extremum, f ( x ) = 0 or f ( x ) = undefined f'(x) = 0\ \text{or} \ f'(x) = \text{undefined}

Then, Yes it's possible for a point x 0 x_0 to be a local extremum and yet f ( x ) 0 f'(x) \neq 0
Ex. : f ( x ) = x f(x) = \lfloor x \rfloor
For, x = integer x = \text{ integer} , f ( x ) 0 f'(x) \neq 0 and still there is an extremum.

Akhil Bansal - 5 years, 5 months ago

We can also have an example of straight line as a counterexample to this...

Puneet Pinku - 4 years, 8 months ago

A function has a local maximum for a given point in the domain if , in the delta neighbourhood of that point,the function attains the maximum value.Hence first derivative=0 corresponds to a point of local extremum but the converse need not be always true.

Mateus Marcuzzo
Dec 25, 2015

You can say that if f '(x) = 0 it's potentially a local extrema (verify inflexion point), there's a stronger criteria envolving the function being 'n' derivable, but not:

if local extrema then f '(x) = 0 (It would be true if known that f(x) is continuous). Since not every function is continuous it can be valid something like:

f(x) = 0 if x != 0 otherwise f(x) = 1

Plot the graph:

f(0) is a local extrema but there isn't a f '(0) = 0.

if f '(x) = 0 then it need not be a local extremum it can be a point of inflection either way the statement only satisfies some but not all

bhargav pavuluri - 5 years, 5 months ago

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You are right, I'm gonna edit

Mateus Marcuzzo - 5 years, 5 months ago

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