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Vi has completed her board game! Her game requires a way to pick an integer from 1 to 60 with equal probability using dice. The following is how to choose and number the dice:

  1. Use only the five Platonic solids with 4, 6, 8, 12, or 20 faces each to guarantee fairness.
  2. Number their faces with (not necessarily distinct) non-negative integers such that the total of the dice in each throw would have an equal probability of being an integer from 1 to 60.

However, the dice numbering Aisling gave is not optimal. She wants to find a dice numbering that minimises the total number of faces of the dice used. What is the minimum number of faces required?


For instance, rolling a 6-sided die and an 8-sided die together numbered D 6 = 1 , 2 , 17 , 18 , 33 , 34 D 8 = 0 , 2 , 4 , 6 , 8 , 10 , 12 , 14 \begin{aligned} D_6&={1,2, 17, 18, 33, 34} \\ D_8 &= 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14 \end{aligned} gives an equal probability of totaling an integer between 1 1 to 48 48 . And the total number of faces used is 6 + 8 = 14 6+8=14 .

This problem is a continuation of this problem


The answer is 26.

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1 solution

Mark Hennings
Jun 10, 2017

Suppose that K K dice are used, with sides N 1 , N 2 , , N K N_1,N_2,\ldots,N_K . If the probability generating function of the j j th dice is G j ( t ) G_j(t) , then G j ( t ) = 1 N j P j ( t ) G_j(t) \; = \; \frac{1}{N_j}P_j(t) where P j ( t ) P_j(t) is a polynomial with nonnegative integer coefficients such that P j ( 1 ) = N j P_j(1) = N_j for each j j . In addition we must have j = 1 K G j ( t ) = 1 60 j = 1 60 t j \prod_{j=1}^K G_j(t) \; =\; \frac{1}{60}\sum_{j=1}^{60} t^j so that the sum of the throws of all the dice gives a uniform distribution on { 1 , 2 , 3 , , 60 } \{1,2,3,\ldots,60\} . Thus 60 P 1 ( t ) P 2 ( t ) P K ( t ) = N 1 N 2 N k ( t + t 2 + + t 60 ) 60P_1(t)P_2(t) \cdots P_K(t) \; = \; N_1N_2 \cdots N_k \big(t + t^2 + \cdots + t^{60}\big) and so t t must divide one of the polynomials P j ( t ) P_j(t) ,. Without loss of generality we assume that P 1 ( t ) = t P ^ 1 ( t ) P_1(t) = t\hat{P}_1(t) for some polynomial P ^ 1 ( t ) \hat{P}_1(t) , and hence 60 P ^ 1 ( t ) P 2 ( t ) P K ( t ) = N 1 N 2 N k ( 1 + t + t 2 + t 59 ) 60 P ^ 1 ( 0 ) P 2 ( 0 ) P K ( 0 ) = N 1 N 2 N k \begin{aligned} 60\hat{P}_1(t) P_2(t) \cdots P_K(t) & = N_1N_2\cdots N_k(1 + t +t^2 + \cdots t^{59}) \\ 60\hat{P}_1(0)P_2(0) \cdots P_K(0) & = N_1N_2 \cdots N_k \end{aligned} and so at least one of N 1 , N 2 , , N K N_1, N_2, \ldots, N_K must be divisible by 3 3 , and at least one must be divisible by 5 5 . Thus one of the dice must be a 20 20 -gon, and one of the other dice must be either a 6 6 -gon or a 12 12 -gon.

Thus the least possible number of faces used will be 26 26 if we can achieve what we want using just a 6 6 -gon and a 20 20 -gon. But since ( t + t 2 + t 3 + t 4 + t 5 + t 6 ) ( 1 + t 6 + t 12 + t 18 + t 24 + t 30 + t 36 + t 42 + t 48 + t 54 ) = t + t 2 + t 3 + t 60 (t + t^2 +t^3 + t^4 + t^5 + t^6)(1 + t^6 + t^{12} + t^{18} + t^{24} + t^{30} + t^{36} + t^{42} + t^{48} + t^{54}) = t + t^2 + t^3 + \cdots t^{60} we see that 1 60 ( t + t 2 + + t 60 ) = P 1 ( t ) P 2 ( t ) \frac{1}{60}\big(t + t^2 + \cdots + t^{60}\big) \; = \; P_1(t) P_2(t) where P 1 ( t ) = 1 6 ( t + t 2 + t 3 + t 4 + t 5 + t 6 ) P 2 ( t ) = 1 10 ( 1 + t 6 + t 12 + t 18 + t 24 + t 30 + t 36 + t 42 + t 48 + t 54 ) = 1 20 ( 2 + 2 t 6 + 2 t 12 + 2 t 18 + 2 t 24 + 2 t 30 + 2 t 36 + 2 t 42 + 2 t 48 + 2 t 54 ) \begin{aligned} P_1(t) & = \frac16\big(t + t^2 + t^3 + t^4 + t^5 + t^6\big) \\ P_2(t) & = \frac{1}{10}\big(1 + t^6 + t^{12} + t^{18} + t^{24} + t^{30} + t^{36} + t^{42} + t^{48} + t^{54}\big) \\ & = \frac{1}{20}\big(2 + 2t^6 + 2t^{12} + 2t^{18} + 2t^{24} + 2t^{30} + 2t^{36} + 2t^{42} + 2t^{48} + 2t^{54}\big) \end{aligned} and so we can obtain the desired result by combining a normal 6 6 -sided die labelled with { 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 } \{1,2,3,4,5,6\} and a 20 20 -sided die labelled with { 0 , 0 , 6 , 6 , 12 , 12 , 18 , 18 , 24 , 24 , 30 , 30 , 36 , 36 , 42 , 42 , 48 , 48 , 54 , 54 } \{0,0,6,6,12,12,18,18,24,24,30,30,36,36,42,42,48,48,54,54\} .

The answer is 26 \boxed{26} .

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