Discs in Triangle

Geometry Level 4

Find the side length (to 2 decimal places):


The answer is 19.052558883257.

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3 solutions

Daniel Liu
Apr 9, 2014

First, let the centers of the circles with radius 2 , 3 , 4 2,3,4 be O a , O b , O c O_a,O_b,O_c respectively. Also, let the vertices of the equilateral triangle be A , B , C A,B,C . Suppose that circle O c O_c is tangent to A C AC and B C BC ; and circle O b O_b is tangent to A B AB and B C BC .

Drawing the line of symmetry C O c \overline{CO_c} , we see that if we can fit the circle O b O_b at the place it is, we can fit a similar circle that is tangent to A C AC and A B AB , with the same radius. Therefore, the actual O a O_a with radius 2 2 , can fit in the remaining space with no question; we need only to consider O b O_b and O c O_c .

To minimize the space taken, we let O b O_b and O c O_c be tangent. In addition, let the points of tangency of O b O_b , O c O_c to B C BC be X X , Y Y , respectively. We can see from 30 60 90 30-60-90 triangles that C Y = 4 3 CY=4\sqrt{3} and B X = 3 3 BX=3\sqrt{3} . Also, X Y = ( 4 + 3 ) 2 ( 4 3 ) 2 = 4 3 XY=\sqrt{(4+3)^2-(4-3)^2}=4\sqrt{3} . Therefore, B C = 11 3 19.05 BC=11\sqrt{3}\approx \boxed{19.05} , as desired.


As a side note, I don't really think that this problem should be in this set... Perhaps the Level 4 set would have been more appropriate, with the frustum cup filled with water problem replacing this in level 5.

OMG!!!!!! I took this approach but made a mistake, writing 4 sqrt(2) and 3 sqrt(2) instead of sqrt(3)!!!!!!! I will go hang myself now. Sigh....

BTW great thinking. I take my hat off to you.

Wooil Jung - 7 years, 2 months ago

i made a different approach :( .great thinking :)

ভূত ভূতৌং - 7 years, 2 months ago

how you got the value of xy?

Ahmed Elshikh - 7 years, 2 months ago

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draw a parallel to xy passing in Ob an draw a line from Ob to Oc. You will have a rectangle triangle with sides xy, 1 and 7

Wagner Rodrigues - 7 years, 2 months ago

I did exactly the same but forgot the root when calculating XY and that ruined the whole thing

Amr Saber - 7 years, 2 months ago

Yes. Same as yours.

Niranjan Khanderia - 7 years, 1 month ago

can't understand till someone makes the graphic version.

Eka Kurniawan - 7 years ago

1.solve it using circle of radius 3 cm and 4 cm touching each other. 2.take one of their common tangent. 3.take two point P,Q on tangent such that pair of tangents to respective circle make angle 60. 4. the triangle formed via three lines will be shortest equilateral triangle. 5. now u can easily solve it. a=4 tan(60) +4+3+ 3 tan(60)= 19.12

Sahil Sareen - 7 years ago

how did u calculated XY daniel?

Jatin Singhal - 7 years ago
Mas Mus
Apr 11, 2014

add the diameter all of the circles, we will find 18, so the smallest side length of the equilateral triangle approximately 19

approximately?? And can you state the reasoning behind your 'solution,' as I can see no way of solving the problem using your 'solution'?

Wooil Jung - 7 years, 2 months ago

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw!

Ruin Okoy - 7 years, 1 month ago

That is a correct approach

Mardokay Mosazghi - 7 years, 1 month ago

? 2+3+4*2=20 not 18!!!!

Jayakumar Krishnan - 6 years, 11 months ago

tan 60° ×(4+3)+4+3 = ans

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