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Algebra Level 2

For a certain arithmetic progression with S 1729 = S 29 , S_{1729 } = S_{29} , where S n S_n denotes the sum of the first n n terms, find S 1758 . S_{1758}.


The answer is 0.

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7 solutions

Sandeep Bhardwaj
Oct 1, 2014

The cute property of Arithmetic Progression is :

If S p = S q \large S_{p}=S_{q} , & p, q are not equal

then

S p + q = 0 \large S_{p+q}=0

same here:

S 1729 = S 29 \large S_{1729}=S_{29}

therefore, S 1729 + 29 = S 1758 = 0 \large S_{1729+29}=S_{1758}=0

Yes. Exactly. This has a wonderful yet easy proof too :D.

Krishna Ar - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Such properties make MATHEMATICS more beautiful. ^_^

Sandeep Bhardwaj - 6 years, 8 months ago

How wonderful!! But have you any different proof of S p = S q S p + q = 0 S_p = S_q \rightarrow S_{p+q} =0 ? It can be proved by applying the formula of sum of an arithmetic series.. But have you any different proof?

Prokash Shakkhar - 4 years, 5 months ago

Nice property lol

Daniel Mathew - 3 years, 5 months ago

@Sandeep Bhardwaj ,can you elaborate on the property of AP,in which it is said that "if the sum of 'n' terms of any sequence is a quadratic in 'n',whose constant term is 0,then the sequence is an AP,whose common difference is twice the coefficient of n^2.IF THE CONSTANT TERM IS NON-ZERO,THEN IT IS AN ARITHMETIC PROGRESSION FROM '2ND' TERM ONWARDS."

It would be so great if you explain this line written in Capitals with reference to the property I've mentioned.

Thanks a lot in advance!!

Manasi Singh - 2 years, 4 months ago

I don't see how this theorem is applicable in practice. Pure arithmetic sequence is constantly decreasing or increasing. I don't see how two sums of the same AP can be equal. Though theorem @Cleres Cupertino wrote is indeed nice and helpful.

Jovana Stan - 1 year, 4 months ago

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If u plot a such an AP u get a downward parabola. Try to plot it!

Shubhrajit Sadhukhan - 10 months, 3 weeks ago

how do u prove this theorem

Sarvagya Agrawal - 10 months, 1 week ago

L e t t h e f i r s t t e r m o f t h e A . P . = a a n d i t s c o m m o n d i f f e r e n c e = d . N o w , S 1729 = S 29 1729 2 ( 2 a + ( 1729 1 ) d ) = 29 2 ( 2 a + ( 29 1 ) d ) C a n c e l l i n g a n d o p e n i n g t h e b r a c k e t s , 1729 ( 2 a ) + 1729 ( 1728 d ) = 29 ( 2 a ) + 29 ( 28 d ) R e a r r a n g i n g t h e t e r m s , ( 1729 29 ) ( 2 a ) + ( 1700 + 29 ) ( 1700 + 28 ) d = 29 ( 28 d ) 1700 ( 2 a ) + 1700 2 d + 1700 ( 29 + 28 ) d + 29 ( 28 d ) = 29 ( 28 d ) C a n c e l l i n g 29 ( 28 d ) o n b o t h s i d e s & t a k i n g 1700 c o m m o n , 1700 { 2 a + 1700 d + 57 d } = 0 S o , 2 a + 1757 d = 0 < 1 N o w , S 1758 = 1758 2 ( 2 a + ( 1758 1 ) d ) = 1758 2 ( 2 a + 1757 d ) F r o m 1 , 2 a + 1757 d = 0 T h e n , S 1758 = 0 Let\quad the\quad first\quad term\quad of\quad the\quad A.P.='a'\quad and\\ it's\quad common\quad difference='d'.\\ \\ Now,{ S }_{ 1729 }={ S }_{ 29 }\\ \frac { 1729 }{ 2 } (2a+(1729-1)d)=\frac { 29 }{ 2 } (2a+(29-1)d)\\ \\ Cancelling\quad and\quad opening\quad the\quad brackets,\\ 1729(2a)+1729(1728d)\quad =\quad 29(2a)+29(28d)\\ \\ Rearranging\quad the\quad terms,\\ (1729-29)(2a)\quad +\quad (1700+29)(1700+28)d\quad =\quad 29(28d)\\ 1700(2a)+{ 1700 }^{ 2 }d+1700(29+28)d+29(28d)\quad =\quad 29(28d)\\ \\ Cancelling\quad 29(28d)\quad on\quad both\quad sides\quad \& \quad taking\quad 1700\quad common,\\ 1700\quad \{ 2a+1700d+57d\} =0\\ \\ So,\quad 2a+1757d=0\quad \quad <---------1\\ Now,\quad S_{ 1758 }=\frac { 1758 }{ 2 } (2a+(1758-1)d)\\ =\frac { 1758 }{ 2 } (2a+1757d)\\ From\quad 1,\quad 2a+1757d=0\\ \\ Then,\quad { S }_{ 1758 }=0

CHEERS:)

Cleres Cupertino
Aug 6, 2015

What Sandeep Bhardwaj told us in his solution, actually, for any AP is that

S n + k = ( n + k n k ) ( S n S k ) n > k S_{n+k}=\left(\frac{n+k}{n-k}\right)\left({ S}_{n}-{S}_{k}\right) \quad \quad n>k

That´s pretty cute to me too!!! :-)

Chew-Seong Cheong
Sep 13, 2018

Proof:

If S p = S q S_p = S_q , then

p 2 ( 2 a + ( p 1 ) d ) = q 2 ( 2 a + ( q 1 ) d ) 2 a p + ( p 2 p ) d = 2 a q + ( q 2 q ) d 2 a ( p q ) + ( p 2 q 2 p + q ) d = 0 2 a ( p q ) + ( p q ) ( p + q 1 ) d = 0 2 a + ( p + q 1 ) d = 0 \begin{aligned} \frac p2 (2a+(p-1)d) & = \frac q2 (2a+(q-1)d) \\ 2ap + (p^2-p)d & = 2aq + (q^2-q)d \\ 2a(p-q) + (p^2 - q^2 - p + q) d & = 0 \\ 2a(p-q) + (p-q)(p+q-1)d & = 0 \\ \implies \color{#D61F06} 2a + (p+q-1)d & = \color{#D61F06} 0 \end{aligned}

Then S p + q = p + q 2 ( 2 a + ( p + q 1 ) d ) = 0 S_{p+q} = \dfrac {p+q}2 {\color{#D61F06} \big(2a + (p+q-1)d\big)} = \color{#D61F06}0 . Since S 1729 = S 29 S 1758 = S 1729 + 29 = 0 S_{1729} = S_{29} \implies S_{1758} = S_{1729+29} = \boxed 0 .

Sunil Pradhan
Oct 12, 2014

Actually answer should not be zero but same as first term 'a'

S29 = a + 28d and S1729 = a + 1728d

then a + 28d = a + 1728d then d = 2

so there is only one term 'a' S1758 = a + 1756 × 0 = a

I don't get it

Sophie Oje - 2 years, 3 months ago

you must don't get the question. it's sum of all term before and the current term, not only find the current term itself. s denotes sum, but what actually you have did is use the term formula :v

Muhammad Saleh Alatas - 1 year, 2 months ago
Lakshman Banik
Oct 8, 2014

S 1758 = 0, the proof is :
If Tn denotes the nth term of the given A.P, then, we may write: S29=T1 +T2 +T3 +....... +T29 and S 1729 = T1 + T2 +T3 + ......+T1729 = S 29 + (T30 +T31 +..... +T1729); Since, S 29=S1729, therefore T 30+ T31 + .... + T 1729 = 0, the 1700 terms and the middle terms are two which will be obviously equal and opposite in sign that means their sum will be equal to zero. Now, the middle terms will be T (29+1700/2 ) and T (29+(1700/2+1)) ,i.e., T 879 and T 880 . Now, suppose,T1 i.e.,first Term = a and common difference is= b, Then, T879 + T880 = 0; (a + (879-1)b ) + (a + (880-1) b) = 0, which gives: 2 a + 1757 b =0 i.e., S 1758 = 0 ( Since, S 1758 = 2a + (1758-1) b )

Seshu Kumar
Aug 18, 2017

Sp=Sq Sp+q=0 S1729=S129 therefore S1758=0

what is the proof for that?

Sara Basheer - 6 months, 3 weeks ago

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