Do you know point symmetry about point of inflection?

Algebra Level 4

Given that A 3 3 A 2 + 5 A 1 = B 3 3 B 2 + 5 B 5 = 0 A^3 - 3A^2 + 5A -1=B^3 - 3B^2 + 5B -5 = 0 .

Find the real value of A + B A+B .


The answer is 2.00.

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3 solutions

Hugh Sir
May 8, 2015

Define f ( x ) = x 3 3 x 2 + 5 x = ( x 1 ) 3 + 2 ( x 1 ) + 3 f(x) = x^3-3x^2+5x = (x-1)^3 + 2(x-1) + 3 .

f ( A ) 3 = ( A 1 ) 3 + 2 ( A 1 ) f(A) - 3 = (A-1)^3 + 2(A-1)

f ( B ) 3 = ( B 1 ) 3 + 2 ( B 1 ) f(B) - 3 = (B-1)^3 + 2(B-1)

Note that f ( A ) + f ( B ) 6 = A 3 3 A 2 + 5 A + B 3 3 B 2 + 5 B 6 = 0 f(A) + f(B) - 6 = A^3-3A^2+5A+B^3-3B^2+5B-6 = 0 ,

and f ( A ) + f ( B ) 6 = ( A 1 ) 3 + ( B 1 ) 3 + 2 ( A + B 2 ) f(A) + f(B) - 6 = (A-1)^3 + (B-1)^3 + 2(A+B-2) .

So ( A + B 2 ) [ ( A 1 ) 2 ( A 1 ) ( B 1 ) + ( B 1 ) 2 + 2 ] = 0 (A+B-2)[(A-1)^2 - (A-1)(B-1) + (B-1)^2 + 2] = 0 .

Note that ( A 1 ) 2 ( A 1 ) ( B 1 ) + ( B 1 ) 2 + 2 2 (A-1)^2 - (A-1)(B-1) + (B-1)^2 + 2 \ge 2 .

Hence, A + B = 2 A+B = 2 .

Moderator note:

There's a simpler approach to this. Hint: show that the two cubic equations are related by a suitable substitution.

Could you explain this step by step?

Wesley Wilson - 6 years, 1 month ago
James Wilson
Dec 27, 2020

See my solution to an equivalent problem: Cubic Twins

Pratyaksh Agarwal
Aug 25, 2015

Clearly, the curve has a point symmetry about the inflection point (1,2) as

f(1+x) +f(1-x) = 4.

Hence, the sum of roots A +B =2.

Moderator note:

Hm, I fail to understand what you are trying to say. What is f ( x ) f(x) ? Unfortunately, not all of us are mind-readers, and we can only read what you have written down.

Hm, I fail to understand what you are trying to say. What is f ( x ) f(x) ? Unfortunately, not all of us are mind-readers, and we can only read what you have written down.

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

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I have taken f(x) = x^3 -3x^2 +5x - 1

PRATYAKSH AGARWAL - 5 years, 9 months ago

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With that as f ( x ) f(x) , I agree that we do have f ( 1 + x ) + f ( 1 x ) = 4 f( 1+x) + f(1-x) = 4 by expanding.

How does that tell us that A + B = 2 A + B = 2 ?

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Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 9 months ago

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