Doesn't that make them all true?

Algebra Level 1

n n is a real number such that exactly one of the equations below is false:

n × n = 1 n × n × n = 1 n × n × n × n = 1. \begin{aligned} n \times n &=& 1 \\ n \times n \times n &=& 1 \\ n \times n\times n\times n &=& 1. \end{aligned}

Which one is false ?

n × n = 1 n \times n = 1 n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n = 1 n × n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n \times n = 1

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20 solutions

David Vreken
Sep 24, 2018

If n = 1 n = -1 , then n × n = 1 n \times n = 1 , n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n = -1 , and n × n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n \times n = 1 ; which means n × n × n = 1 \boxed{n \times n \times n = 1} is false.


For completeness, we can show that n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n = 1 is the only equation that can be false with the other equations being true:

The equation n × n = 1 n \times n = 1 cannot be the only false equation because then n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n = 1 and n × n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n \times n = 1 , which by substitution means n × ( n × n × n ) = n × 1 = 1 n \times (n \times n \times n) = n \times 1 = 1 or n = 1 n = 1 , which would make n × n = 1 n \times n = 1 a true equation, which contradicts our assumption.

Likewise, the equation n × n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n \times n = 1 cannot be the only false equation because then n × n = 1 n \times n = 1 , and n × n × n × n = ( n × n ) × ( n × n ) = 1 × 1 = 1 n \times n \times n \times n = (n \times n) \times (n \times n) = 1 \times 1 = 1 , which would make n × n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n \times n = 1 a true equation, which also contradicts our assumption.

Therefore, n × n × n = 1 n \times n \times n = 1 is the only equation that can be false with the other equations being true.

Moderator note:

A couple people are misreading the problem, so it's worth clarifying:

We are given that n n is a real number such that only one of the equations is false (and therefore two of them are true). It is therefore not relevant here that n = 1 n=1 could make all three equations true, because that doesn't match the parameters of the problem.

@Pi Han Goh excellent problem indeed!!!

Noel Lo - 2 years, 8 months ago

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I'm glad you enjoyed it =) =)

Pi Han Goh - 2 years, 8 months ago

nice problem

Amit Kumar - 2 years, 8 months ago

This seems completely ridiculous. If n=1 as is exptrssed then none of the equations are false.

John Wood - 2 years, 8 months ago

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If n = -1 then one equation out of three is false.

David Vreken - 2 years, 8 months ago

To give more detail, the problem states n is such that exactly one of the equations is false, so we know that n can't be a value where something else occurs (like all the equations are true).

Jason Dyer Staff - 2 years, 8 months ago

Equation 2 and 3 both are false. Because there are three possible roots to the eqn 2 of which two are imaginary. Similarly there four possible roots to eqn 3 out of which two are imaginary. So only equation 1 is only true because only this can have two real roots for 'n' , i.e. 1 and -1

Anshuman Parui - 2 years, 8 months ago

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The question is asking for a value of n which makes exactly one of the equations false, and n = -1 makes equation 2 false but equations 1 and 3 true.

David Vreken - 2 years, 8 months ago
Renee Elton
Oct 1, 2018

If n=1, all are true. If n=-1, then you need to use the rule for multiplying negatives: two negatives=positive, and negative x positive = negative. The result, when n=-1, is that n x n x n= -n

Since one didn’t fit the description, I did the only other eligible number,-1, and it was just smooth sailing from there

Itamar Ti - 2 years, 6 months ago
Peter Macgregor
Oct 1, 2018

We will assume that the question has a consistent answer and continue with a proof by contradiction.

* Suppose that the middle equation, n 3 = 1 n^3=1 is true. *

This has only one real solution, n = 1 n=1

But n = 1 n=1 makes the other two equations true as well!

This contradicts the condition that precisely one equation is false.

So we must negate the starred supposition and say that the equation n 3 = 1 n^3=1 must be false.

[Retracted question] Why are you restricting the domain to only real numbers?

Oh, nevermind, i didn't even notice that the question did already (unnecessarily) state that n was a real number. :">

C . - 2 years, 8 months ago

If the number is 1 then they would all be right.

Jay Nova - 2 years, 8 months ago

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Indeed, but the problem states outright that n is such that exactly one of the equations is false. We are looking for the scenario where exactly one of the equations is false.

Jason Dyer Staff - 2 years, 8 months ago
Hani Haddad
Oct 4, 2018

n n = 1 n = 1 o r n = 1 n n n n = n 4 = 1 n 2 = 1 o r n 2 = 1 n = 1 o r n = 1 n n = 1 T h e n t h e f i r s t a n d t h e l a s t e q u a t i o n s a r e t h e s a m e . S o t h e s e c o n d i s t h e o n l y p o s s i b l e f a l s e e q u a t i o n . ( F o r v e r i f i c a t i o n n n n = 1 n 3 = 1 n = 1 T h e n t h e ( 1 ) i s t h e c o u n t e r e x a m p l e f o r t h e s e c o n d ) n*n=1\quad \Longleftrightarrow \quad n=1\quad or\quad n=-1\\ n*n*n*n={ n }^{ 4 }=1\quad \Longleftrightarrow \quad { n }^{ 2 }=1\quad or\quad { n }^{ 2 }=-1\\ \qquad \qquad \qquad \qquad \Longleftrightarrow \quad n=-1\quad or\quad n=1\quad \\ \qquad \qquad \qquad \qquad \Longleftrightarrow \quad n*n=1\\ Then\quad the\quad first\quad and\quad the\quad last\quad equations\quad are\quad the\quad same.\quad So\quad the\quad second\quad is\quad the\quad only\quad possible\quad false\quad equation.\\ (For\quad verification\quad n*n*n=1\Longleftrightarrow { n }^{ 3 }=1\quad \Longleftrightarrow \quad n=1\quad \\ Then\quad the\quad (-1)\quad is\quad the\quad counter\quad example\quad for\quad the\quad second)

Erin Rose
Oct 3, 2018

n = -1 simple as that

Kazi Abu Rousan
Oct 2, 2018

This problem is indeed beautiful. As we know if A=x+iy and if y=0 we call it real number. Let's use this we see n^2-1=0 , n^3-1=0 and n^4-1=0 Form this (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kTZK6-0_Pufeel4OGFwYVoyBdI5YcfMi/view?usp=drivesdk) Read the PDF first, then we see there are 2 common roots there between n^2 and n^4 but they are not there for n^3 so now we can see easily that for n=1 and n=-1 we will get 1st and 3rd statement true but not the 2nd one.

Caleb Kum
Oct 1, 2018

I was thinking, 'How could a number times multiple times become 1?' So, since it's a real number it has to be based on 1. But, that would satisfy all equations, so -1 is the other option.

Three equations in general was n^2=1, n^3=1 n^4=1

The first and the last one brings us all the real solutions. But the second one could bring complex one! And always a cubic rest cant be positive!

That's why it may be false!

Sid Dunnebacke
Oct 6, 2018

Before it dawned on me what n is, I realized that, if n x n = 1, then n x n x n x n is equivalent to 1 x 1, which is of course right. Assuming the first equation to be true meant the third equation is also true, leaving the second as the one that’s false.

Joseph Traverso
Oct 6, 2018

Let n=-1 (-1)(-1)=1 1=1 which is a true statement therefore (n)(n) is also true (-1)(-1)(-1)(-1)=1 (1)(1)=1 1=1 which is also true therefore the statement (n)(n)(n) must also be true as well (-1)(-1)(-1)=(n)(n)(n)=1 -1=1 is untrue so (n)(n)(n) is false

Heidi S
Oct 5, 2018

As n squared is equal to 1, n must be either positive or negative 1. Positive 1 works with all three, and therefore doesn’t meet the problem’s parameters. However, negative 1 results in statements one and three being true, and statement two being false. Therefore, statement two is the correct answer.

Seb Torres
Oct 5, 2018

N can equal any real number, lets say for simplicity n = -1. Think of this as in terms of powers: n X n = n^2, n X n X n = n^3, and n X n X n X n = n^4. We know that anything that is squared will come out positive and the same can be said for anything to the 4th power. For example -1^2 is really just -1 X -1 which equals 1 and -1^4 is really just -1 X -1 X -1 X -1 which equals 1. It is always true that anything to an even power will ALWAYS be positive . However anything to an odd power will always result in the number's original negative or positive sign . Take n^3 and realize that this is just saying n X n X n = n^3. Now lets take -1^3 which is just -1 X -1 X -1 = -1. Because a negative times a negative equals a positive and then times another negative equals a negative. This works for any odd power. -1^15 = -1 or -1^333333333 = -1. So therefor, saying that n X n X n = 1 given that n equals any real number is FALSE .

Ullas Kunder
Oct 4, 2018

If n is √2 then n×n=2 But n×n×n=2√2 which is complex number

No, 2 2 2\sqrt2 is not a complex number.

Plus, if n = 2 n = \sqrt2 , then exactly two of the given equations are wrong, not one. So n = 2 n=\sqrt2 cannot be a solution.

Pi Han Goh - 2 years, 8 months ago
Alex Curbelo
Oct 3, 2018

The simple wording of the problem is tricky. A more honest wording might read "When real number n belongs to a specific set, exactly one of the equations below is false:"

Of course to arrive to the solution, one has to assume that n belongs to the set of negative real numbers.

I didn't arrive to the correct answer based on negative numbers. I was honestly puzzled, so I picked the answer that wasn't like the other two: odd number of n 's vs. even number of n 's.

I'm not sure i agree... I did look for any complex number x which would satisfy any of the three equations, and still the only solution was -1. :-B

C . - 2 years, 8 months ago
Ervyn Manuyag
Oct 3, 2018

(-1)^3 isn’t 1.

Can you elaborate on it? I don't see the relevance behind ( 1 ) 3 1 (-1)^3 \ne 1 here.

Pi Han Goh - 2 years, 8 months ago
Sam Bertram
Oct 2, 2018

n*n = n^2 n^2 = 1 n = +-√1 n= +-1

We are after a soltn where we have 1 incorrect soltn from the set, (1)^n always yields 1, while (-1)^n fluctuates between positive and negative.

let n be -1. Any negative number to an odd power results in a negative number. This applies with any negative number, as any negative number n raised to an odd power will be negative

Peter Thomas
Oct 1, 2018

Considering n to be -ve, equation 1 n^2 and equation 3 n^4 will be +ve hence n^3 should be -ve

Yunhee Cho
Oct 1, 2018

If n=1/√(2)....... n²=1 ^ n⁴=1...... But n³=1/√(2) ....... Hence n³ is false. Is this an ok solution?

Not at all... How is (1/√(2))²=1 ?! :O

C . - 2 years, 8 months ago
Edwin Gray
Oct 1, 2018

Any product of n an even numcer of times will always be > 0. For an odd number, it can be negative if n is negative. Ed Gray

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