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A cart consists of a box of mass m mounted on 4 identical wheels. Total mass of all the four wheels is also m.When released from rest on a uniform slope of inclination =30 degrees the cart rolls down without slipping a distance of 15m in time 3 seconds. Now a load of mass m is put in the box of cart and the cart is again released on the slope.If the load does not slide in the box,calculate time taken by cart to roll down the same distance gravity = 10 m / s 2 10m/s^2

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The answer is 2.828.

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Steven Chase
Feb 21, 2020

Let M B M_B be the mass of the box, and let M W M_W be the combined mass of the wheels. Let x x be the distance the cart has rolled down the ramp, and let R R be the radius of the wheels. We are not told the exact shape of the wheels, so we introduce a parameter α \alpha such that the combined moment of inertia of the wheels is α M w R 2 \alpha M_w R^2 . As the cart rolls down the ramp, both the box and the wheels translate, and the wheels rotate as well. Conversion of gravitational potential energy to kinetic energy results in the following equation:

1 2 ( M B + M W ) x ˙ 2 + 1 2 ( α M W R 2 ) ( x ˙ R ) 2 = ( M B + M W ) g x sin θ \frac{1}{2} (M_B + M_W) \dot{x}^2 + \frac{1}{2} (\alpha M_W R^2) \Big( \frac{\dot{x}}{R} \Big)^2 = (M_B + M_W) g \, x \sin \theta

Simplifying gives:

x ˙ 2 = ( M B + M W ) g x sin θ 1 2 ( M B + M W ) + 1 2 ( α M W ) \dot{x}^2 = \frac{(M_B + M_W) g \, x \sin \theta}{\frac{1}{2} (M_B + M_W) + \frac{1}{2} (\alpha M_W) }

It is likely that the wheels are either disks ( α = 1 2 ) (\alpha = \frac{1}{2}) or circular rims ( α = 1 ) (\alpha = 1) . Using the above expression for the speed of the cart as a function of the cart position, numerically integrate the position of the cart using both α \alpha values and choose the value of α \alpha which corresponds to x = 15 x = 15 at t = 3 t = 3 . For this simulation, set M B = M W = 1 M_B = M_W = 1 . As it turns out, the wheels are circular rims ( α = 1 ) (\alpha = 1) .

Now that we know α \alpha , we can double the value of M B M_B and run the simulation again and see at what time x = 15 x = 15 . The final t t value turns out to be 2.828 2.828 . Simulation code is attached. Note that this problem could be done fully analytically (by hand), but it was more convenient for me to use numerical integration.

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import math

theta = math.pi/6.0

m = 1.0
g = 10.0

MB = m
MW = m

alpha = 1.0

dt = 10.0**(-6.0)

#######################################

x = 0.0
xd = 10.0**(-6.0)
t = 0.0

while t <= 3.0:

    x = x + xd * dt

    right = (MB + MW)*g*x*math.sin(theta)
    left = 0.5*(MB+MW) + 0.5*alpha*MW

    xd = math.sqrt(right / left)

    t = t + dt

#######################################

print t
print x
print ""

#3.00000000007
#14.9999220657


#######################################

MB = 2.0*m

x = 0.0
xd = 10.0**(-6.0)
t = 0.0

while x <= 15.0:

    x = x + xd * dt

    right = (MB + MW)*g*x*math.sin(theta)
    left = 0.5*(MB+MW) + 0.5*alpha*MW

    xd = math.sqrt(right / left)

    t = t + dt

#######################################

print t

#2.82843500004

Ok got it thanx

Priyansh Dutt Sharma - 1 year, 3 months ago

In the first case, the force balance equation gives

2 m g sin α F f = 2 m w 2mg\sin α-F_f=2mw ,

where m , g , w , F f m, g, w, F_f are mass of the box, acceleration due to gravity, acceleration of the box and force of friction respectively. The moment balance equation gives

F f × r = η m r 2 β F_f\times r=\eta mr^2β ,

where r , β , η r,β,\eta are the radius of each wheel angular acceleration of each wheel and the ratio of total moment of inertia of the wheels and m r 2 mr^2 respectively. Since the rolling is pure, therefore

w = r β w=rβ

Solving we get w = 2 g sin α 2 + η w=\dfrac{2g\sin α}{2+\eta} .

In the second case, the corresponding equations are

3 m g sin α F f = 3 m w 3mg\sin α-F'_f=3mw'

and

F f × r = η m r 2 β F'_f\times r=\eta mr^2β' ,

with

w = r β w'=rβ' .

Solving we get w = 3 g sin α 3 + η w'=\dfrac{3g\sin α}{3+\eta} .

If t t and t t' be the times of travel in the two cases, then, since the initial velocities in both the cases are zero, we have

t t = w w \dfrac{t'}{t}=\sqrt {\dfrac{w}{w'}} ,

or

t = 3 × 2 ( 3 + η ) 3 ( 2 + η ) t'=3\times \sqrt {\dfrac{2(3+\eta) }{3(2+\eta) }}

For the wheels to be in the shape of circular rims, η = 1 \eta=1 , and the time is given by

t = 3 × 8 9 1.8856 t'=3\times \sqrt {\dfrac{8}{9}}\approx \boxed {1.8856} sec.

For the wheels to be in the shape of circular disks, η = 1 2 \eta =\dfrac{1}{2} , and the time is given by

t = 3 × 14 15 2.898 t'=3\times \sqrt {\dfrac{14}{15}}\approx \boxed {2.898} sec.

For impure rolling, the force balance equations in the two cases are

2 m g sin α 2 μ k m g cos α = 2 m w w = g ( sin α μ k cos α ) 2mg\sin α-2\mu_kmg\cos α=2mw\Rightarrow w=g(\sin α-\mu_k\cos α)

3 m g sin α 3 μ k m g cos α = 3 m w w = g ( sin α μ k cos α ) = w 3mg\sin α-3\mu_kmg\cos α=3mw'\Rightarrow w'=g(\sin α-\mu_k\cos α)=w .

where μ k \mu_k is the coefficient of sliding friction.

Hence both the times will be equal in the case of impure rolling. That is the time will be 3 3 sec. in the second case also.

Pure rolling isnt mentioned

Priyansh Dutt Sharma - 1 year, 3 months ago

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If the rolling be impure, then the answer will depend on the friction coefficient, which is not supplied. Hence we have to assume that the rolling is pure.

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 3 months ago

Yes we dont know the fric coeff that is why we cant do it by your method

Priyansh Dutt Sharma - 1 year, 3 months ago

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In the solution given by Steven Chase also, pure rolling is considered. That is the correct approach.

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 3 months ago

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No he didnt condider pure rolling

Priyansh Dutt Sharma - 1 year, 3 months ago

Are you sure? Under what condition can the angular velocity be equal to x ˙ R \dfrac{\dot {x}}{R} ?

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 3 months ago

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Ohh rightt.. I am sorry..i just saw energy conservation and didnt solve it furyher

Priyansh Dutt Sharma - 1 year, 3 months ago

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