A box contains 8 yellow balls, 3 red balls and 5 white balls. In taking 3 balls randomly (without replacement), the probability that we draw at least 1 red ball can be expressed as b a , where a and b are positive coprime integers. What is the value of a + b ?
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It's perfectly alright.
same thought
very bad statement
I solved it the other way around , here's what I did :
First of all , the sample space = 16C3 = 560
Possibilities of only 1 red ball drawn = ( 13C2 ) * ( 3C1 ) = 234
Possibilities of 2 red balls drawn = ( 13C1 ) * ( 3C2 ) = 39
Possibiliteis of 3 red balls drawn obviously = 1
Therefore the possibilities of at least one red ball drawn = 234 + 39 + 1 = 274
Then divide it by the sample space : 274/560 = 137/280 = a/b Then : a + b = 137 + 280 = 417 ;) :D
this question is very very wrong because of the coprime factor !!!
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could u please tell me the reason???
hm? What's wrong?
what is it?
The easiest way to solve this problem is to begin with the situation we wouldn't want, in this case avoiding red completely. Since we're starting with 16 balls, our odds of avoiding red on the first pick are 13/16. Then, should we have avoided red, these change to 12/15 and 11/14 for the second and third chances respectively. To find the chance overall, we must multiply the fractions together, giving 143/280. Now, if that fraction represents the chances of drawing no red balls, we need to do 280-143 to find the chances of 1 or more, which is 137(/280). 137+280 is 417, which is our answer.
Why the ratio changes to 12/15 and 11/14 in second and third try. The number of red balls remain same, so shouldn't the ratio be 13/15 and 13/14. I know your method is right, since you got the right answer. Just can't understand the logic. Please explain.
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I agreeeeeee. It should be 13/16, 13/15 and 13/14.
There are a total of ( 3 8 + 5 + 3 ) ways of drawing 3 balls without regard to order. The number of ways of n o t drawing a red ball is given by ( 3 8 + 5 ) since we are choosing 3 balls from only the yellow and white balls. Therefore the probability of drawing at least one red ball is 1 − ( 3 1 6 ) ( 3 1 3 ) = 1 − 5 6 0 2 8 6 = 2 8 0 1 3 7 = b a
a + b = 4 1 7
Great explanation!
good explntn
But wouldn't the first combination (8+5+3)choose 3 overcount the ways?? For example, if we consider the 3 red balls to be R1, R2 and R3, then the combination would consider (Y,W,R1) and (Y,W,R2) as different combinations but they are the same.
( 3 1 6 ) = 3 × 2 × 1 1 6 × 1 5 × 1 4 and not 1 6 × 1 5 × 1 4 . Generally in problems like these, the items are considered indistinguishable. But even if we did consider them distinguishable, then we would get 1 6 × 1 5 × 1 4 1 3 × 1 2 × × 1 1 as the probability of not drawing a red ball and the answer is the same.
The probability that we do not draw any red balls is equal to 1 6 1 3 × 1 5 1 2 × 1 4 1 1 = 2 8 0 1 4 3 .So the probability that we draw at least 1 red ball is equal to 1 − 2 8 0 1 4 3 = 2 8 0 1 3 7 .So a = 1 3 7 , b = 2 8 0 and a + b = 4 1 7 .
This is hypergeometric distribution question.
Let X be a number of red picked up.
Using axiom of probability, P(X=1)+P(X=2)+P(X=3) = 1-P(X=0)
P(X=0)=1716/3360
Therefore, 1-P(X=0)= 1644/3360.
The GCD is 12, then 1644/3360 = 137/280.
137+280 = 417
P ( atleast one red ball ) = 1 − P ( no red ball )
P ( no red ball ) = 1 6 1 3 × 1 5 1 2 × 1 4 1 1
P ( atleast one red ball ) = 1 − ( 2 8 0 1 4 3 ) = 2 8 0 1 3 7 = 4 1 7
I solved it the other way around , here's what I did :
First of all , the sample space = 16C3 = 560
Possibilities of only 1 red ball drawn = ( 13C2 ) * ( 3C1 ) = 234
Possibilities of 2 red balls drawn = ( 13C1 ) * ( 3C2 ) = 39
Possibiliteis of 3 red balls drawn obviously = 1
Therefore the possibilities of at least one red ball drawn = 234 + 39 + 1 = 274
Then divide it by the sample space : 274/560 = 137/280 = a/b Then : a + b = 137 + 280 = 417 ;) :D
total no. of ways of taking 3 balls from 16 balls= 16c3 = 560
no. of ways when no red ball is taken= 13c3 = 286
so, no. of ways when atleast one red ball is taken = 560-286= 274
probablity that we draw atleast a red ball= 274/560=137/280.
a= 137 & b=280.
theirfore, a+b= 280+137 =417
number of ways of selecting 3 balls out of 16 = 16C3 = 560
number of ways of selecting 3 non-red balls = 13C3 = 286
probability of at least one red ball = (560 - 286)/560 = 137/280
137 + 280 = 417
Out of a total of 16 balls, let us consider the cases in which we do not get any red ball at all. For the first ball, we have a total of 8 + 5 = 1 3 choices out of 1 6 (since we are excluding the red balls); for the second, we have a remaining total of 1 2 choices out of 1 5 ; for the third ball, we have 1 1 choices out of 1 4 .
P ( N o R e d B a l l s ) = 1 6 1 3 × 1 5 1 2 × 1 4 1 1 = 2 8 0 1 4 3
And so, P ( A t L e a s t O n e R e d ) = 1 − 2 8 0 1 4 3 = 2 8 0 1 3 7
We have a = 1 3 7 and b = 2 8 0 , giving us a + b = 4 1 7 , which is the required answer.
There are two ways...you can make different cases or simplest way is find the probability of getting only yellow and white balls and subtract it from 1(complement).....
Because counting the number of ways to count AT LEAST 3 red balls is too hard we are going to use complementary counting to count how many ways we can not count a red ball. The answer we want to get is now 1 − ( 3 1 6 ) ( 3 1 3 ) because the amount of success in this case is choosing the amount of balls that are not red over the amount of total ways you can choose a ball.
Let's imagine we only have the 8 yellow balls and the 5 white balls. So the combinations are 3 ! ⋅ 1 0 ! 1 3 ! = 2 8 6 . Now let's add up the 3 red balls. The combinations are 3 ! ⋅ 1 3 ! 1 6 ! = 5 6 0 . That means that the difference between this two cases, 5 6 0 − 2 8 6 = 2 7 4 , are the combinations that involves at least 1 red ball. But remember that we have 1 6 balls, so the total of possible combinations are 5 6 0 . The answer is 5 6 0 2 7 4 = 2 8 0 1 3 7 , and so a + b = 1 3 7 + 2 8 0 = 4 1 7 .
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Probability of getting atleast 1 red ball (1,2 or 3 red balls) is the same as 1-(probability of getting no red ball)
Probability of getting no red ball: (Using combinations)
n(Event) = 3 ! 1 0 ! 1 3 ! = 286
n(Sample Space) = 1 3 ! 3 ! 1 6 ! = 560
Probability = n ( S ) n ( E ) = 5 6 0 2 8 6
Probability of getting at least one read ball = 1 - (probability of getting no red ball)
Required probability = 1 − 5 6 0 2 8 6 = 2 8 0 1 3 7
a=137 and b=280
a + b = 417