Duck Pond

Two people stand around a circular duck pond which has radius R R meters. They are placed randomly (uniformly along the circumference of the duck pond) and independently.

What is the probability that they are more than R R meters apart from each other?

3/4 2/3 1/2 1/3

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3 solutions

Pranjit Handique
Aug 6, 2015

Let the first person be placed at A. O is the centre of the circle. The second person B placed anywhere between BAB' will be less than distance R from A. < BOB' is 120 degrees. Therefore probability that person B is greater than distance R from A is (360-120)/360=240/360=2/3.

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Great solution using the geometric probability.

What about the distance R R along the circumference? This should have been stated explicitly!

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 5 months ago

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R along the circumference results in 1/pi, since 2pi is in a circle and we can only reach 2 radius's around the left or right.

Jerry McKenzie - 2 years, 10 months ago

I agree. "Distance" can mean distance around the perimeter, and given the facts, that would be a reasonable assumption. So I calculate a correct answer on that basis and received an " incorrect"! Frustrating.

James Schuller - 1 year, 11 months ago

I agree with u there

Arache Darviche - 1 year, 4 months ago
Omar Alor
Feb 2, 2016

We know that the length of the circumference is 2(pi)R, so we have to calculate the probability that if the person is standing anywhere, then the second person has to be R distance apart from the first person's right and left side, along the circumference. This covers the length of the circumference that is 2(pi)R minus 2R, which means that our probability will be represented by [2(pi)R - 2R]/2(pi)R.

Since the solution options are different enough, we can guess pi to be 3.14 and from there calculate that this fraction is 0.6815, which is close to 2/3.

Well.. I also used this method and chose the nearest one which is 2/3.. But then from pranjit's explanation above i realized that when calculating the distance between 2 people, you don't go along the circumference, but instead measure a straight line between them

Gilbert Wonowidjojo - 5 years, 1 month ago

we cannot subtract 2R from circumference(2piR) because length of arc(l) is measured using angle i.e (l=R*theta).

Pavan Konathala - 4 years, 9 months ago

It should have been stated explicitly that we don't consider the distance along the circumference! Yet if we have a look at the offered answers, we came to a conclusion, R R is measured along a straight line. When we randomly choose one person, a distance of the length R R of the other person from the first one is taken in two opposite directions, which makes 2 R 2R . Since R R is the radius of the circle, the whole length of distances is 6 R 6R (because we deal with a hexagonal), i.e. the probability is 1 3 \dfrac13 . However, there are two persons, so that the total probability is 2 1 3 = 2 3 2\cdot\dfrac13=\dfrac23 .

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