Dusty Telescope

There is an old telescope. As shown in the figure, the lower half of its lens is covered by dust so that no light can pass through, while the upper half is still clean. If we use this telescope to look at the full moon, how would the moon look?

Half moon with lower half bright ◓ Half moon with upper half bright ◒ Full moon The moon will not be visible

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David Winson
Sep 18, 2017

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Although half of the light reaching the telescope lens is blocked, light from all parts of the moon will still reach the clear part of the lens and will form the image seen by the observer. So the full moon will still be visible, although the image will be less intense than if the lens was clean.

I also like the diagram. As a side note, from this image it should be easy to see how apertures work. By reducing the amount of light allowed to reach the surface of the lens, you still get the entire image, just not as bright. A side benefit can often be found in that most image distortion comes from lens aberrations that form as more rays are allowed to pass through areas near the edge of the lens. By blocking the light from these regions, you diminish the brightness, but you may increase image quality.

David Steidley - 3 years, 8 months ago

and yet, a finger partially obscuring a camera lens will partially block a photograph. and in the days of cinematography, using film and not digital, if action took place on a set and it was required to show a castle or mountain in the background, then a suitably shaped mask was placed in front of the lens so that the area that had to show the background was not exposed and the film could be reshot, masking the exposed area of the film and superimposing the desired background scene on the previously unexposed portion of the film. how did that work?

Alec Trivass - 3 years, 8 months ago

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The difference is where the obscuration is placed. In image formation there is an image plane and a focal plane. Having dust on a lens effects the overall brightness and is located on the image plane. Having a mask to block out the background is done by putting the mask in the focal plane.

David Steidley - 3 years, 8 months ago

You certainly mentioned something I don't know about cinematography, Mr. Trivass.

Michael Stevenson - 3 years, 8 months ago

I think the radius of the Moon formed will be half of the actual moon . Isn't it?

Kaushik Chandra - 3 years, 8 months ago

How did you created this diagram?

Munem Shahriar - 3 years, 8 months ago

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Yes I used PowerPoint with the moon pic grabbed from Google images

David Winson - 3 years, 8 months ago

Jeez! I did know the answer to this one. I tried to copy and paste the answer choices onto my blog, which apparently clicked the first choice. Yes, the dust would not affect the refraction of light.

Brenda Gaines Hunter - 3 years, 8 months ago

Were we assuming the telescope was pointed at the center of the moon? The thing is, if I saw a fraction of the moon, I would move the telescope accordingly. However the light rays point is very interesting. I realize this was a basic question, but pushing further, do the light rays from different angular sections of the moon get blocked differently? Not sure how "old" telescope matters. Full moon was only intuitive answer. ;)

Michael Stevenson - 3 years, 8 months ago
Étienne Ong
Sep 21, 2017

Relevant wiki: Lenses

A telescope uses converging lens, which converges infinite light rays into a point to form an image. In this case, the object comes from infinity, meaning that the light rays coming from the object will be almost parallel (in this case, they are so almost parallel we assume them to be parallel).

Note that without the blockage of dust on the lower half of the telescope, the image will be formed by the convergence of infinite light rays onto a point to form an image. Now add the blockage. We can see that there will still be half the number of the original light rays converging on that same point , forming the same image. Hence, an image of the full moon will still be observed , but it will only be half as bright.

Is there a way to cover the lens so that only half of the image is formed?

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 3 years, 8 months ago
William Huang
Sep 5, 2017

Relevant wiki: Lenses

It doesn't matter how much of the lens is covered. If we look at anything with half the telescope lens covered, we can still see the whole thing, we just can't see the other half - covered by dust.

For a visual example, picture yourself looking through a clean telescope at the moon (which is quite far away). Then imagine the lens half-covered with dust and look through it, you can still see the moon with the clean half. Next, imagine the telescope is built like that - it only has half a lens - then look through it, you can still see the moon.

But why does this happen?

Agnishom Chattopadhyay - 3 years, 8 months ago

"we can still see the whole thing, we just can't see the other half" ?

Blue November - 3 years, 7 months ago
Dave Walker
Sep 18, 2017

Light from all points on the moon will pass through any given part of the objective lens before being focussed to the viewer's eye. Obscuring part of the lens will make the entire image dimmer rather than hiding part of the image.

Mohammad Khaza
Sep 19, 2017

if 1 2 \frac{1}{2} or more than 1 2 \frac{1}{2} portion of a lens is OK,then we can still get a full view of something.

example-we can see the full moon with both eyes or with one eye.

Your two eyes are not a lens. Closing one eye is not an example.

Grayson Moses - 3 years, 8 months ago

Even if more than half of the lens is covered, the entire image can be still be obtained, but the intensity will decrease.

Pranshu Gaba - 3 years, 8 months ago
Max Yuen
May 2, 2019

This is the same kind of conceptual question I would ask a class of optics students. The action of the lens is to focus light so that you can see it in your eye. It does not matter which part of the lens light from the moon falls on, since each point on the surface of the lens is responsible for getting the rays to your eye. Thus, you will see the full moon, but at about half the brightness .

It's also important to note that any object that is out of focus will not have symmetric blurring. The "bokeh" will be distorted and look like half circles.

The image resolution might suffer a bit along one direction due to the input aperture being only half a circle. Thus, any diffraction limited telescope will not produce the same resolution long the direction that is half covered.

A point for further reading is there are some powerful computational optics techniques that exploit the ideas introduced here to do some powerful imaging: See this link for more information

Jane Claire
Sep 23, 2017

The moon will look essentially the same as through a telescope of smaller aperture. The shape of the opening has no effect. Reflecting telescopes have a mirror blocking the light path and they work just fine.

Suraj Singh
Sep 20, 2017

If we have covered half of the lens then the brightness of the moon will decrease not the size of the moon

Hasmik Garyaka
Sep 4, 2017

We can see full picture if only any part of the lense is clean.

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