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A + B A = A B = X \large \frac {A+B}{A} = \frac {A}{B} = X

If A A and B B are positive, what is the value of X ? X?


The answer is 1.618.

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7 solutions

Shandy Rianto
Feb 13, 2015
  • A + B A = X \frac{A+B}{A} = X

    A + B = A X A+B = AX

    B = A X A B = AX - A

  • A B = X \frac{A}{ B} = X

    B = A X B = \frac{A}{X}

    A X A = A X AX-A= \frac{A}{X}

    A X 2 A X = A AX^2 - AX = A

    A X 2 A X A = 0 AX^2 -AX - A = 0

    A ( X 2 X 1 ) = 0 A(X^2 - X - 1) = 0

Since A 0 A \neq 0 , hence:

X 2 X 1 = 0 X^2 - X - 1 = 0

Solve for X X we get:

X = 0.618 \boxed{X = 0.618} or X = 0.618 X = -0.618

Your solution is correct but there is a typo in your final answer.

Anoorag Nayak - 5 years, 7 months ago
Raj Magesh
Feb 13, 2015

A B + B 2 A 2 = 0... s o l v i n g f o r B , B = A ± A 2 + 4 A 2 2 X = A B = 2 1 ± 5 = 1.618 o r . 618. AB+B^2-A^2=0...solving for B, B=\dfrac{-A \pm \sqrt{A^2+4A^2}}{2} \\\therefore X=\dfrac{A}{B}= \dfrac{2}{1\pm \sqrt5} =1.618~~ or~~ -.618.

Actually, a quick observation that the equation of X X given here is itself the definition of the golden ratio ( ϕ ) (\phi) gives us the the answer X = ϕ = 1 + 5 2 X=\phi=\dfrac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2} . The value X = 1 5 2 X=\dfrac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2} is a solution to this equation, but the author of the problem wanted people to solve this orally using the definition of golden ratio and as such specified the positive answer.

Note that X = 1 5 2 = ϕ 1 ϕ X=\dfrac{1-\sqrt{5}}{2}=\phi^{-1}\neq \phi and the problem should be rephrased as "Both A A and B B are numbers having the same sign" so as to clear the ambiguity of people answering the negative solution.

Prasun Biswas - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Did the same ! Bravo!

Swapnil Das - 5 years, 8 months ago
Uyên Trinh
Dec 14, 2015

A + B A = A B \frac{A+B}{A}=\frac{A}{B}

A 2 A B B 2 = 0 {A}^{2} - AB - {B}^{2} = 0

( A 2 B 2 ) 2 = 5 B 2 2 {({A}^{2} - \frac{B}{2})}^{2} = \frac{5{B}^{2}}{2}

A B 2 = B 5 2 A - \frac{B}{2}\ = B\frac{\sqrt{5}}{2}

A B = 1 + 5 2 \frac{A}{B}=\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}

X = A B = 1 + 5 2 {X}=\frac{A}{B}=\frac{1+\sqrt{5}}{2}

X 1.618 X\approx 1.618

Matt O
Nov 9, 2015

a + b a = 1 + b a = 1 + ( a b ) 1 = a b \frac{a+b}{a}=1+\frac{b}{a}=1+(\frac{a}{b})^{-1}=\frac{a}{b}

( a b ) 2 a b 1 = 0 (\frac{a}{b})^{2}-\frac{a}{b}-1=0

x = a/b = 1 ± 5 2 \frac{1\pm\sqrt{5}}{2} , reject the negative solution because that implies one of a or b are negative

We apply this rule

a b = c d = a + c b + d \frac { a }{ b } =\frac { c }{ d } =\frac { a+c }{ b+d } \quad \

Substituting a = A + B , b = A , c = A , d = B a = A+B, b = A, c = A, d = B

A + B A = A B = 2 A + B A + B = 1 + A A + B = 1 + 1 X = X \frac { A+B }{ A } =\frac { A }{ B } =\frac { 2A+B }{ A+B } =1+\frac { A }{ A+B } =1+\frac { 1 }{ X } = X

X 2 X 1 = 0 \Leftrightarrow { X }^{ 2 }-X-1=0

Solving for X, taking only the positive root as A , B > 0 A, B > 0

X = 1 + 5 2 \Rightarrow X=\frac { 1+\sqrt { 5 } }{ 2 }

X 1.618 X\approx 1.618

Ruslan Abdulgani
Feb 10, 2015

(x+1)/x = x, so we have quadratic eqs. x^2 - x - 1 = 0, and the solution is x=1.618

x=-0.618 is also a right answer.

Ngọc Bùi Tiến - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Remember that A , B > 0 A, B > 0 , so the negative root is not possible.

Tín Phạm Nguyễn - 6 years, 3 months ago

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