Circles in a Square

Geometry Level 2

Two circles are drawn inside a square with side length 2 + 2 2+\sqrt{2} as shown. Let the radius of the larger circle be R R and the radius of the smaller circle be r r . Find the value of: R + r R + r


The answer is 2.00.

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Let the square be A B C D ABCD and the centers of the big and small circles be O O and P P respectively.

We note that B P = r 2 \space BP = r\sqrt{2} , O D = R 2 \space OD = R\sqrt{2} \space and

B D = B P + P O + O D = r 2 + r + R + R 2 = ( R + r ) ( 1 + 2 ) \quad BD = BP+PO+OD = r\sqrt{2} + r + R + R\sqrt{2} = (R+r)(1+\sqrt{2})

We note also that B D = ( 2 + 2 ) × 2 = 2 2 + 2 = 2 ( 1 + 2 ) BD = (2+\sqrt{2}) \times \sqrt{2} = 2\sqrt{2}+2 = 2(1+\sqrt{2})

Therefore, ( R + r ) ( 1 + 2 ) = 2 ( 1 + 2 ) R + r = 2 \quad (R+r)(1+\sqrt{2}) = 2(1+\sqrt{2})\quad \Rightarrow R+r = \boxed{2}

why did you assume that PO line is a diagonal for the square if we add BP and OD to it?

Ahmed Mohamad - 6 years, 5 months ago

The two circles touches the squares at right angles. The center of the circle the corner of the square and the two points of contact form a square. The two circles centers are aligned at 4 5 45^\circ .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 5 months ago

Very well done!

Aran Pasupathy - 6 years, 4 months ago
Manvith Narahari
Jan 6, 2015

Note that A B = B E = R AB=BE= R and that E C = C D = r EC=CD= r . Then B C = R + r BC= R + r and B C BC is along the diagonal of the square. This means that B C BC is the hypotenuse of a 45-45-90 triangle. Let the length of the leg of this triangle be x x . We proceed as follows:

Side length of square = 2 + 2 = A B + x + C D =2+\sqrt{2}=AB+ x +CD

2 + 2 = R + r + x 2+\sqrt{2}= R + r + x

x 2 = B C = R + r x \sqrt{2}=BC= R + r

x = R + r 2 x =\dfrac{ R + r }{\sqrt{2}}

2 + 2 = R + r + R + r 2 2+\sqrt{2}= R + r +\dfrac{ R + r }{\sqrt{2}}

2 + 2 = ( R + r ) ( 1 + 1 2 ) 2+\sqrt{2}=( R + r )(1+\dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}})

2 = R + r 2= R + r

Samuel Li
Jan 4, 2015

Anti-solution: Because the problem does not give any information of exactly what R R and r r are, the answer must be independent of R R and r r (i.e: R + r R+r is an invariant). This must continue to hold even if r r is zero (assuming we "accidentally" glanced over the "inside the square" part). At this point, the large circle with radius R R is tangent to two sides of the square and intersects a corner. It is easily shown that in this case, R = 2 R=2 . R + r = 2 + 0 = 2 R+r = 2+0 = 2 .

My actual solution: The distance between the center of the large circle and the corner of the square is R 2 R\sqrt{2} . Likewise, the distance between the center of the small circle and its corner of the square is r 2 r\sqrt{2} . The distance between the centers of the circles is R + r R+r . So, the total distance is ( R + r ) ( 1 + 2 ) (R+r)(1+\sqrt{2}) . This must be equal to the diagonal of the square, 2 2 + 2 2\sqrt{2}+2 . Solving ( R + r ) ( 1 + 2 ) = 2 2 + 2 (R+r)(1+\sqrt{2})=2\sqrt{2}+2 Results in the answer of R + r = 2 R+r=2 .

Edit: Realized my solution is effectively the same as Chew-Seong Cheong's but I'll keep it anyway.

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Jan 4, 2015

E A + C J = E A + D Q = D A Q E = O A I A EA+CJ=EA+DQ=DA-QE=OA-IA = 2 A B 2 D Q 2 E A =\sqrt{2}AB-\sqrt{2}DQ-\sqrt{2}EA 2 A B 2 D Q 2 E A = D Q + E A \sqrt{2}AB-\sqrt{2}DQ-\sqrt{2}EA=DQ+EA ( D Q + E A ) ( 1 + 2 ) = 2 A B (DQ+EA)(1+\sqrt{2})=\sqrt{2}AB ( D Q + E A ) = ( 2 A B ) ( 1 + 2 ) (DQ+EA)=\frac{(\sqrt{2}AB)}{(1+\sqrt{2})} D Q + E A = ( 2 A B ) ( 1 + 2 ) DQ+EA=\frac{(\sqrt{2}AB)}{(1+\sqrt{2})} D Q + E A = ( 2 ( 2 + 2 ) ) ( 1 + 2 ) DQ+EA=\frac{(\sqrt{2}(2+\sqrt{2}))}{(1+\sqrt{2})} D Q + E A = ( 2 × 2 × ( 1 + 2 ) ) ( 1 + 2 ) = 2 DQ+EA=\frac{(\sqrt{2} \times \sqrt{2} \times (1+\sqrt{2}))}{(1+\sqrt{2})}=\boxed{2}

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