Edmund Hillary had it easy

Climbing to the top of Mount Everest is hard, but it's slightly easier than you might think as people weigh less as they climb to the top. Let W E W_E be a person's weight on top of Mount Everest and W S W_S be their weight at sea level. What is the value of 1 W E / W S 1-W_E/W_S ?

Details and assumptions

  • Assume the earth (other than Everest) is a sphere of mass 6 × 1 0 24 kg 6 \times 10^{24}~\mbox{kg} and radius 6 , 370 km 6,370~\mbox{km} .
  • The top of Mount Everest is 8 , 848 m 8,848~\mbox{m} above the surface of the earth.


The answer is 0.0028.

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2 solutions

Mashrur Fazla
Oct 14, 2013

Here,
G = 6.673 × 1 0 11 6.673\times 10^-11 N m 2 k g 2 Nm^2kg^-2
M = 6 × 1 0 2 4 6\times 10^24 kg
R = 6370 6370 km = 6370000 6370000 m
h = 8848 8848 m


g E g_{E} =( 6.673 × 1 0 11 N m 2 k g 2 × 6 × 1 0 2 4 6.673\times 10^-11 Nm^2kg^-2\times 6\times 10^24 kg ) / ( 6370000 + 8848 ) 2 (6370000+8848)^2 m
So, g E g_{E} = 9.83983618 9.83983618 m s 2 ms^-2

Again, g S g_{S} =( 6.673 × 1 0 11 N m 2 k g 2 × 6 × 1 0 2 4 6.673\times 10^-11 Nm^2kg^-2\times 6\times 10^24 kg ) / ( 6370000 ) 2 (6370000)^2 m
So, g S g_{S} = 9.867190446 9.867190446 m s 2 ms^-2

Now,1- W E / W S W_{E}/W_{S}
=1- ( m × g E m\times g_{E} )/ ( m × g S m\times g_{S} )
=1- ( 9.83983618 9.83983618 )/ ( 9.867190446 9.867190446 )
=1- 0.9972277554 0.9972277554
= 2.8 × 1 0 3 2.8\times 10^-3
SO,The answer is 2.8 × 1 0 3 \boxed{2.8\times 10^-3}

Let x be your weight at sea level and r is the distance to the center of the earth

Your weight on the top of Everest will be (r / (r + height of Everest))^2 * x

Kshitij Khandelwal - 7 years, 8 months ago

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yes you are also right. In this way
W E W_{E} / W S W_{S}
= ( r / ( r + h ) 2 x (r / (r + h)^2 * x )/ ( r / r 2 x (r / r ^2 * x )
= ( 637000 0 2 × x (6370000^2\times x )/ ( 637884 8 2 × x ) (6378848^2\times x)
= 0.9972277554 0.9972277554
Now 1 W E / W E 1-W_{E}/W_{E}
= 1 0.9972277554 1-0.9972277554
= 2.8 × 1 0 3 2.8\times 10^-3
SO.the answer is also 2.8 × 1 0 3 \boxed{2.8\times 10^-3}

Mashrur Fazla - 7 years, 8 months ago

I used a calculator, got my answer as 0.0027 and I hate it now.

Abhijeeth Babu - 7 years, 7 months ago

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You got 0.00277 0.00277 that means 0.0028 0.0028 .But if you give 0.00277 0.00277 as answer it will also be correct.

Mashrur Fazla - 7 years, 7 months ago

well done

Kartik Sharma - 7 years, 7 months ago

very lenthy way

rugved dhore - 7 years, 7 months ago

i round it to 3 x 10(sqr)-3 and it's wrong because of that :P

Hafizh Ahsan Permana - 7 years, 2 months ago

I posted the answer as 0.0027 by doing the same method.

Abin Das - 7 years, 7 months ago

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is it correct? I posted 2.77E-3

Mashrur Fazla - 7 years, 7 months ago
Jamie Coombes
Oct 14, 2013

We begin by finding the ratio of the gravitational field strength on Everest to Sea level: g e g s = G M r e 2 G M r s 2 = r s 2 r e 2 \frac{g_e}{g_s} = \frac{\frac{GM}{r_e^2}}{\frac{GM}{r_s^2}} = \frac{r_s^2}{r_e^2}

Using Newton's second law, F e = m a e F_e = ma_e

F s = m g s F_s = mg_s

so the ratio of the two forces due to gravity are, F e F s = g e g s = r s 2 r e 2 = 637000 0 2 637884 8 2 = 0.997 \frac{F_e}{F_s} = \frac{g_e}{g_s} = \frac{r_s^2}{r_e^2} = \frac{6370000^2}{6378848^2} = 0.997

Finally, we subtract the ratio from one.

1 F e F s = 1 0.997 = 0.00277 1- \frac{F_e}{F_s} = 1 - 0.997 = 0.00277

Let x be your weight at sea level and r is the distance to the center of the earth

Your weight on the top of Everest will be (r / (r + height of Everest))^2 * x

Kshitij Khandelwal - 7 years, 8 months ago

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