Ed's conic

Algebra Level 5

What is the minimum value of the conic

5 x 2 4 x y + y 2 10 x + 6 y + 50 5x^2 - 4xy + y^2 - 10x + 6y + 50

as x x and y y ranges over all real numbers?

This problem is posed by Ed .


The answer is 40.

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5 solutions

Chi Tong
May 20, 2014

The expression given is equivalent to: y 2 + ( 2 x ) 2 + 2 ( 2 x ) y + 2 y 3 + 2 ( 2 x ) 3 + 9 + x 2 + 2 x + 1 + 40 y^2 + (-2x)^2 + 2(-2x)y + 2y\cdot 3 + 2(-2x)3 + 9 + x^2 + 2x + 1 + 40 = ( y 2 x + 3 ) 2 + ( x + 1 ) 2 + 40 = (y -2x + 3)^2 + (x+1)^2 + 40

The two squares are 0 , \geq 0, so the minimum value of the expression given is 40

This is a beautiful solution with one minor issue: one also has to show that the two squares can be zero at the same time.

The most common incorrect solution was to find the point where both partial derivatives are equal to zero and then claim, without justification, that this is the point of minimum. This is really not obvious. Because you are not allowed to use assume that the problem itself is correct, you cannot just argue that the minimum exists, thus it must be that point.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago
Jiaqi Wang
May 20, 2014

First, we can factor 5 x 2 4 x y + y 2 10 x + 6 y + 50 5x^2-4xy+y^2-10x+6y+50 into 5 ( x 1 ) 2 + y 2 + ( 6 4 x ) y + 45 5(x-1)^2 + y^2 + (6-4x)y + 45 .

By Vieta's formula, we know that b 2 a \frac {-b}{2a} is the vertex of any parabola in the quadratic form a x 2 + b x + c ax^2 + bx + c .

Since a a is positive for y 2 + ( 6 4 x ) y + 45 y^2 + (6-4x)y + 45 , the vertex is a absolute minimum. b 2 a = 4 x 6 2 = 2 x 3 = y \frac {-b}{2a} = \frac {4x-6}{2} = 2x - 3 = y .

Now plug y = 2 x 3 y = 2x-3 back into the equation. We get 5 ( x 1 ) 2 + ( 2 x 3 ) 2 + ( 6 4 x ) ( 2 x 3 ) + 45 = x 2 + 2 x + 41 5(x-1)^2 + (2x-3)^2 + (6-4x)(2x-3) + 45 = x^2 + 2x + 41 .

Taking b 2 a \frac {-b}{2a} again, we get x = 1 x = -1 as the vertex. ( 1 ) 2 + 2 ( 1 ) + 41 = 40 (-1)^2 +2(-1) + 41 = 40

Therefore, 40 40 is our answer.

This is not "factoring" but "completing a square". The order of terms in the expression 5 ( x 1 ) 2 + y 2 + ( 6 4 x ) y + 45 5(x-1)^2 + y^2 + (6-4x)y + 45 is not very consistent. Vieta's formulas is about something else. These things aside,a nice solution.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

If we take the partial derivatives in respect to X and in respect to Y, and equals them to zero, we'll get a system of the maximum or minimum point; in this case is the minimum because both coefficients of X^2 and y^2 are positive.

f(x)=10x-4-10 f(y)=2y-4x+6

10x-4-10=0 2y-4x+6=0

x=-1 y=-5

Now we have the critical points of the function. Substitute the values in the equation:

5(-1)^2-4(-1)(-5)+(-5)^2-10(-1)+6(-5)+50=40

Then we have our value.

" in this case is the minimum because both coefficients of X^2 and y^2 are positive." True, but should be better justified.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago
Mahir Tazwar
May 20, 2014

Given equation of the conic, 5x^{2} - 4xy + y^{2} - 10x + 6y + 50

Let, p = 5x^{2} - 4xy + y^{2} - 10x + 6y + 50 ---- (1)

Since we have to find the minimum value of the conic, so we are to differentiate the conic w.r.t x and y respectively to obtain two different equations.

Firstly, differentiating both sides w.r.t x ,

\frac{dp}{dx} = 10x - 4y - 10 = 0 ----- (2)

Secondly, differentiating both sides w.r.t y ,

\frac{dp}{dy} = -4x + 2y + 6 = 0 ----- (3)

Note that, both the equations were considered to be equal to zero, so that we can find the values of x & y.

Solving equation (2) and (3),

x = -1

y = -5

Substituting the value of x and y in equation (1), we will get the minimum value of the conic, i.e.

p = 5. (-1)^{2} - 4 .(-1) . (-5) + (-5)^{2} - 10 . (-1) + 6 . (-5) + 50

= 40 [Q.E.D]

One has to prove that this is the minimum, not just a local extremum.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

d/dx = 10x - 4y - 10 = 0 d/dy = 2y - 4x + 6 = 0 so the minimum is in (-1,-5) and we get 40 switching x and y with these values

Not proven that this is a minimum, not even any reason given.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago

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