Electric Field at axis of Cylinder!

A non-conducting solid cylindrical rod of length L L and radius R R has uniformly distributed charge Q Q . Find the electric field at point P P , a distance L L from the center of the rod.

If E = Q a π R b L ϵ 0 [ L + ( L c d + R e ) f ( g L h i + R j ) k ] \large E = \frac{Q}{a \pi R^b L \epsilon_0}[ L+(\frac{L^c}{d} +R^e)^{f} - (\frac{gL^h}{i} +R^j)^{k} ]

then, Find the sum of ( a + b + c + d + e + f + g + h + i + j + k ) (a+b+c+d+e+f+g+h+i+j+k) .


Note : Fractions (ex 7 4 \dfrac 7 4 , 3 2 \dfrac 3 2 ) must not be simplified and written as 1.75 1 , 1.5 1 \frac{1.75}{1} , \frac{1.5}{1}


The answer is 30.000.

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2 solutions

Nishant Rai
Jun 14, 2015

Consider a Disc of radius R R of thickness d r dr at a distance r r from the center O O of the cylinder.

Charge on the disc,

d q = Q π R 2 L ( π R 2 d r ) = Q L d r dq = \frac{Q}{\pi R^2 L} (\pi R^2 dr) = \frac{Q}{L} dr

Electric field due to disc along it's axis

E x = σ 2 ϵ 0 [ 1 x x 2 + R 2 ] E_x = \frac{\sigma}{2 \epsilon_0} [1- \frac{x}{\sqrt{x^2 + R^2}}]

Do the necessary Integration and get the answer!

Final answer E = Q 2 π R 2 L ϵ 0 [ L + ( L 2 4 + R 2 ) 0.5 ( 9 L 2 4 + R 2 ) 0.5 ] \large \Rightarrow E = \frac{Q}{2 \pi R^2 L \epsilon_0}[ L+(\frac{L^2}{4} +R^2)^{0.5} - (\frac{9L^2}{4} +R^2)^{0.5} ]

@Nishant Rai The answer is not unique because 9/4 can be written in many different ways. 9/4 makes the most sense, which is why I got the answer, but still, it could be written as 2.25/1 or something.

Nathanael Case - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Yes......I agree with u coz my answer too was correct in its own sense

Dev Khanduja - 3 years, 2 months ago

can you tell me how to find the electric field for a solid hemisphere on the axis of its base

saurabh tripathi - 5 years, 11 months ago

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Consider rings and u will have to integrate this function KQ(x+rcosa)da/2(r²sin²a+x²)¾.² Its 3/2 X distance from axis Integrate for a=0 to a=π/2

Ace Pilot - 5 years, 9 months ago

Do u think its level 5 problem? Coz its just integration

Ace Pilot - 5 years, 9 months ago

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no its easy @Ace Pilot , u must proceed and it will be simplified ,

Rudraksh Sisodia - 5 years, 2 months ago

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is integration lin=mits is x , x+l

Saurabh singh - 3 years, 5 months ago

LOTS AND LOTS of integration, A difficult question for Std. XI student, We dont have Integration in std XI

Md Zuhair - 3 years, 4 months ago
Jack Ceroni
May 3, 2020

We begin by considering the integral across all infinitesimal contributions to the overall electric field:

E = d E = k d q 2 = k cos θ d q z 2 + r 2 E \ = \ \displaystyle\int \ dE \ = \ \displaystyle\int \frac{k dq}{\ell^2} \ = \ \displaystyle\int \frac{k \cos \theta dq}{z^2 \ + \ r^2}

Where θ \theta is the angle that the radius extending from point P P to some point in the cylinder makes with the horizontal, since the vertical components of force cancel each other out. We also know that d V = r d r d θ d x dV \ = \ r dr d\theta dx and d q d V = Q π R 2 L \frac{dq}{dV} \ = \ \frac{Q}{\pi R^2 L} . This means that we will have:

E = k Q π R 2 L cos θ r z 2 + r 2 d r d θ d z E \ = \ \frac{kQ}{\pi R^2 L} \displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int \frac{\cos \theta r}{z^2 \ + \ r^2} dr d\theta dz

Since cos θ = z \cos \theta \ = \ \frac{z}{\ell} , we have:

E = k Q π R 2 L z r ( z 2 + r 2 ) 3 / 2 d r d θ d z E ( P ) = 2 k Q R 2 L L / 2 3 L / 2 0 R z r ( z 2 + r 2 ) 3 / 2 d r d z E \ = \ \frac{kQ}{\pi R^2 L} \displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int \displaystyle\int \frac{z r}{(z^2 \ + \ r^2)^{3/2}} dr d\theta dz \ \Rightarrow \ E(P) \ = \ \frac{2 kQ}{ R^2 L} \displaystyle\int_{L/2}^{3L/2} \displaystyle\int_{0}^{R} \frac{z r}{(z^2 \ + \ r^2)^{3/2}} dr dz

Performing the u-substitution of u = r 2 u \ = \ r^2 and d u 2 = r d r \frac{du}{2} \ = \ r dr , we get:

E ( P ) = k Q R 2 L L / 2 3 L / 2 0 R 2 z ( z 2 + u ) 3 / 2 d u d z = 2 k Q R 2 L L / 2 3 L / 2 [ z 1 z 2 + u ] 0 R 2 d z = 2 k Q R 2 L L / 2 3 L / 2 [ 1 z 1 z 2 + R 2 ] d z E(P) \ = \ \frac{kQ}{ R^2 L} \displaystyle\int_{L/2}^{3L/2} \displaystyle\int_{0}^{R^2} \frac{z }{(z^2 \ + \ u)^{3/2}} du dz \ = \ \frac{-2kQ}{ R^2 L} \displaystyle\int_{L/2}^{3L/2} \Big[ z \frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2 \ + \ u}} \Big] \biggr\rvert_{0}^{R^2} dz \ = \ \frac{2kQ}{ R^2 L} \displaystyle\int_{L/2}^{3L/2} \Big[ 1 \ - \ z \frac{1}{\sqrt{z^2 \ + \ R^2}} \Big] dz

Now, we perform another u-substitution, with u = z 2 u \ = \ z^2 and d u 2 = z d z \frac{du}{2} \ = \ z dz , getting:

E ( P ) = 2 k Q R 2 L [ L 1 2 L 2 / 4 9 L 2 / 4 1 u + R 2 ] d u = 2 k Q R 2 L [ L L 2 4 + R 2 + 9 L 2 4 + R 2 ] = Q 2 π R 2 L ϵ 0 [ L L 2 4 + R 2 + 9 L 2 4 + R 2 ] E(P) \ = \ \frac{2 kQ}{ R^2 L} \Big[ L \ - \ \frac{1}{2} \displaystyle\int_{L^2 / 4}^{9L^2 / 4} \frac{1}{\sqrt{u \ + \ R^2}} \Big] du \ = \ \frac{2 kQ}{ R^2 L} \Big[ L \ - \ \sqrt{\frac{L^2}{4} \ + \ R^2} \ + \ \sqrt{\frac{9L^2}{4} \ + \ R^2} \Big] \ = \ \frac{Q}{2 \pi R^2 L \epsilon_0} \Big[ L \ - \ \sqrt{\frac{L^2}{4} \ + \ R^2} \ + \ \sqrt{\frac{9L^2}{4} \ + \ R^2} \Big]

Which leaves us with:

2 + 2 + 2 + 4 + 2 + 1 2 + 9 + 2 + 4 + 2 + 1 2 = 30 2 \ + \ 2 \ + \ 2 \ + \ 4 \ + \ 2 \ + \ \frac{1}{2} \ + \ 9 \ + \ 2 \ + \ 4 \ + \ 2 \ + \ \frac{1}{2} \ = \ 30

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