Ellipse Inscribed In A Square

Geometry Level 5

An ellipse is inscribed in a square of side length 10, as shown in the figure above. If the point of tangency on the right side is 7 units away from the bottom of the square, then find the length of the major axis of the ellipse.

Give your answer to 3 decimal places.


The answer is 11.832.

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5 solutions

L e t ( x a ) 2 + ( y b ) 2 = 1 be the ellipse. AB the side of the square in first quadrant tangent to it. C the point of tangentcy. I t c a n b e s e e n f r o m s y m m e t r y t h a t A ( 0 , 5 2 ) , B ( 5 2 , 0 ) , m = s l o p e A B = 1. F r o m t h e F i g . C ( 7 2 , 3 2 ) But differentiating equation for ellipse we get m = a 2 b 2 y x . B u t m = 1. m c = a 2 b 2 3 2 7 2 = 1. S o b 2 = 3 7 a 2 . . . . . . . ( ) S u b s t i t u t i n g t h e v a l u e o f C a n d ( ) i n t h e e q u a t i o n o f t h e e l l i p s e , w e g e t , a = 35 . S o m a j o r a x i s = 2 a = 11.832. Let\ (\dfrac x a)^2+(\dfrac y b)^2=1 \text{ be the ellipse. AB the side of the square in first quadrant tangent to it. C the point of tangentcy.}\\ It\ can\ be\ seen\ from\ symmetry\ that\ \ A(0,5\sqrt2),\ \ B(5\sqrt2,0), \ \ m=slope\ AB=-1.\ From\ the\ Fig.\ C(\frac 7 {\sqrt2},\ \frac 3 {\sqrt2}) \\ \text{But differentiating equation for ellipse we get }\ m=- \dfrac{a^2}{b^2}*\dfrac y x .\ \ But\ \ m=-1.\\ \implies\ m_c=- \dfrac{a^2}{b^2}*\dfrac {\frac 3 {\sqrt2}}{\frac 7 {\sqrt2}} =-1.\ \ \ So\ b^2=\frac 3 7 *a^2. ......(*)\\ Substituting \ the\ value\ of\ C \ and\ (*)\ \ in\ the\ equation\ of\ the\ ellipse,\ \ we\ get,\\ a=\sqrt{35}.\ \ So\ major\!-\!axis=2a=11.832.

Nice solution! Just a minor typo in x coordinate of B line #2.

I used 'scaling of a circle' along y-axis. Found the height (y-coordinate of the point of tangency) on the circle as x y \sqrt{xy} and then used Pythagoras to find the radius of the circle as 35 \sqrt{35}

Ujjwal Rane - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Thanks. Made the correction.

Niranjan Khanderia - 4 years, 8 months ago
Hosam Hajjir
Sep 21, 2016

We'll define a rotated frame of reference X Y X' Y' such that the ellipse major and minor axes are parallel to its axes, and the center of the ellipse, is at its origin. The angle of rotation is obviously 4 5 45^{\circ} counterclockwise. We assume that the origin of original frame is at the left bottom corner of the square. This means that the center of the ellipse is the point ( 5 , 5 ) ( 5, 5 ) . Now it is straightforward to write the relation between ( x , y ) (x, y) and ( x , y ) (x', y')

x = 1 2 ( ( x 5 ) + ( y 5 ) ) = 1 2 ( ( x + y 10 ) x' = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}} ( (x - 5) + (y - 5) ) = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}} ( (x + y - 10 )

y = 1 2 ( ( x 5 ) + ( y 5 ) ) = 1 2 ( y x ) y' = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}} ( -(x - 5) + (y - 5) ) = \dfrac{1}{\sqrt{2}} ( y - x )

The equation of the ellipse is

x 2 a 2 + y 2 b 2 = 1 \dfrac{x'^2} { a^2 }+ \dfrac{y'^2}{ b^2} = 1

The tangency point is (10, 7) in the original frame, so in terms of the new frame it becomes ( 7 2 , 3 2 ) (\dfrac{7}{\sqrt{2}} , \dfrac{-3}{\sqrt{2}} ) .

The slope at the tangency point is 1 1 . Therefore, using the well-known formula for the slope of the ellipse at a point (x', y'):

d y d x = 1 = ( b a ) 2 x y = 7 3 ( b a ) 2 \dfrac{dy'}{dx'} = 1 = - ( \dfrac{b}{a} )^2 \dfrac{ x'}{y'} = \dfrac{7}{3} ( \dfrac{b}{a} )^2

so that

b 2 = 3 7 a 2 ( 1 ) b^2 = \dfrac{3}{7} a^2 \cdots (1)

Now, substituting the given point in the equation of the ellipse,

49 2 a 2 + 9 2 b 2 = 1 ( 2 ) \dfrac{49}{2 a^2} + \dfrac{9}{2 b^2} = 1 \cdots (2)

Substituting (1) in (2),

49 2 a 2 + 63 6 a 2 = 1 \dfrac{49}{2 a^2} + \dfrac{63}{6 a^2} = 1

From which,

210 6 a 2 = 1 \dfrac{ 210 }{6 a^2 } = 1

hence,

a 2 = 210 6 = 35 a^2 = \dfrac{210}{6} = 35

Thus the semi-major axis is,

a = 35 a = \sqrt{35 }

Therefore, the major axis = 2 a = 2 35 = 11.832 = 2 a = 2 \sqrt{35} =\boxed{ 11.832}

Michael Mendrin
Sep 21, 2016

See following graphic of a circle with a line that is tangent to it at 3 10 \dfrac{3}{10} of the distance from the origin to where the line intersects the x x -axis. The line intersects the y y -axis at 1 1

The radius of this circle can readily be found to be

7 10 \sqrt{\dfrac{7}{10}}

We then first squeeze the figure along the x x -axis so that the circle becomes an ellipse and the line has a slope of 1 -1 . We scale up the figure by a factor of

10 2 \dfrac{10}{\sqrt{2}}

so that we have our square of sides 10 10 . For the length of the ellipse along its major axis, we compute

2 10 2 7 10 = 2 35 = 11.8322... 2 \dfrac{10}{\sqrt{2}} \sqrt{\dfrac{7}{10}} =2\sqrt{35}=11.8322...

Ujjwal Rane
Sep 29, 2016

Ellipse in Square Ellipse in Square

Taking the major axis as X axis and minor axis along Y. T = point of tangency, M = foot of the perpendicular from T on x axis. Slope of tangent AB = -1. BT = 7, TA = 3 given.

This gives coordinates: T ( 7 cos 45 ° , 3 sin 45 ° ) , A ( 10 cos 45 ° , 0 ) T(7 \cos45°, 3 \sin 45°), A(10 \cos45°, 0) giving distances O M = 7 2 M A = 3 2 OM = \frac{7}{\sqrt{2}} MA = \frac{3}{\sqrt{2}}

Project point of tangency T up to point of tangency T' on the parent circle. OT'A = 90° giving MT' ^2 = OM \times MA and the radius = semi major axis O M 2 + M T 2 = 35 OM^2 + MT'^2 = 35 and the major axis 2 35 = 11.832 2 \sqrt{35} = \textbf {11.832}

Subh Mandal
Sep 24, 2016

We know director radius √(a^2+b^2) = 1/2 diagonal of square(10/√2). And selecting axes along diagonal of square we get coordinate of a pt lining on ellipse to be 7/√2 and 3/√2 hence putting these pt in standard ellipse form we get another eq in a^2,b^2 solving both to get 11.832

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