Equilateral Triangle with X Inside

Geometry Level 5

A B C ABC is an equilateral triangle with side length N N . X X is a point within A B C ABC , such that the distance from X X to the vertices A , B , C A, B, C are 8 8 , 13 13 and 15 15 , respectively. What is the value of N 2 N^2 ?


The answer is 409.

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11 solutions

First, let us rotate A X C \triangle AXC [about C C by 6 0 60^\circ ] to B Y C \triangle BYC , with Y Y being the new position of X X . Now, Y C X = Y C B + B C X = A C X + B C X = 6 0 \angle YCX = \angle YCB + \angle BCX = \angle ACX + \angle BCX = 60^\circ . Again, C X = C Y = 15 CX = CY = 15 (after rotation). As C X Y \triangle CXY isosceles and Y C X = 6 0 \angle YCX = 60^\circ , C X Y \triangle CXY is equilateral, so X Y = 15 XY = 15 . Now if we use cosine law on B Y X \angle BYX , we get cos B Y X = 8 2 + 1 5 2 1 3 2 2 8 15 = 1 2 \cos BYX = \frac {8^2 + 15^2 - 13^2}{2 \cdot 8 \cdot 15} = \frac 1 2 so, B Y X = 6 0 \angle BYX = 60^\circ and B Y C = 6 0 + 6 0 = 12 0 \angle BYC = 60^\circ + 60^\circ = 120 ^ \circ . So, as rotated angle, A X C = 12 0 \angle AXC = 120 ^\circ . Now if we use cosine law on A X C \triangle AXC , we get A C 2 = A X 2 + C X 2 2 A X C X cos 12 0 = 8 2 + 1 5 2 + 2 8 15 ( 1 2 ) = 409 AC ^2 = AX^2 + CX^2 - 2 AX \cdot CX \cdot \cos 120^\circ = 8^2+15^2 + 2 \cdot 8 \cdot 15 \cdot (-\frac {1}2) = 409 . So, N 2 = 409 N^2 = 409 , which is our desired answer.

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Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago
Russell Few
May 20, 2014

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Rotate AXB 60 degrees clockwise around B

Rotate CXA 60 degrees clockwise around A

Rotate BXC 60 degrees clockwise around C

AXC is congruent to ADB, so <XAC=<DAB. Thus, <CAB=<DAX=60. Since <DAX=60 and AD=AX, <ADX=<XDA=(180-60)/2=60,and DX=8.

We could argue similarly that FX=15

By the cosine law, cosAXF=(8^2+15^2-13^2)/(2 8 15)=1/2. Thus, AXF=60

<FXC=60, so <AXC=120. cos120=-1/2, so through the cosine law, -1/2=(8^2+15^2-n^2)/(2 8 15). Thus, -120=289-n^2, and n^2=409, which is what we are looking for.

N^2=409.

Alan Zhang
May 20, 2014

Rotating triangle APC 60 degrees towards side C gets you point P'. You know PP' is also 8 from the fact that AP' and AP are 8 and P'AP is 60 degrees. Use law of cosines on triangle P'PC toobtain angle P'PB. Add 60 degrees to that to obtain angle APC. Finally use law of cosine again on triangle APC to obtain N^2=409.

Qi Huan Tan
May 20, 2014

Rotate triangle AXB 60 degree about the centre A such that AB maps onto AC and X maps onto Y. X A Y = X A C + Y A C = X A C + X A B = 60 \angle XAY=\angle XAC+\angle YAC=\angle XAC+\angle XAB=60 degrees. Note that AX=AY=8, therefore triangle AXY is equilateral and XY=8. Since YC=XB=13, by Cosine rule, 1 3 2 = 1 5 2 + 8 2 2 ( 15 ) ( 8 ) ( cos Y X C ) 13^2=15^2+8^2-2(15)(8)(\cos \angle YXC) , which gives Y X C = 60 \angle YXC=60 degrees. So A X C = 60 + 60 = 120 \angle AXC =60+60=120 . By Cosine rule again, N 2 = A C 2 = 8 2 + 1 5 2 2 ( 8 ) ( 15 ) ( cos 120 ) = 409 N^2=AC^2=8^2+15^2-2(8)(15)(\cos 120)=409 .

{Latex edits - Calvin]

When describing a geometric transformation, be certain to specify all the necessary parameters. Note that some people may draw different diagrams, so you have to be careful with saying clockwise or anti clockwise, if you have not initially specified a direction of labeling.

Calvin Lin Staff - 7 years ago
Steven Kwon
May 20, 2014

We rotate point X 60 degrees clockwise about A to get point A', and so we have <A'AX=60. Since line segment AA' is a rotation of line segment AX by 60 degrees also, AA'=8. Since triangle AA'X is isosceles, <AA'X=<AXA'. Since the two angles sum to 180-60=120, each angle is 60 degrees, and so triangle AA'X is equilateral.

Similarly, we rotate X around B and C by 60 degrees to get B' and C', respectively. Note that by the same reason, triangles BB'X and CC'X are also equilateral.

Also, note that the area of the hexagon AA'BB'CC' is twice the area of triangle ABC, since we have rotated pieces of triangle ABC to get the hexagon (for example, triangles AA'B and AXC are congruent because they both have 8, 15, and N as side lengths). Lastly, we can see that the hexagon is composed of three equilateral triangles (AA'X, BB'X, CC'X) and three congruent triangles with side lengths 8, 13, and 15 (A'XB, B'XC, C'XA). Thus using Heron's formula and the formula for the area of an equilateral triangle, we get

[ A B C ] = 1 2 [ A A B B C C ] = 1 2 ( [ A A X ] + [ B B X ] + [ C C X ] + 3 [ A X B ] ) [ABC]=\frac {1}{2}[AA'BB'CC']=\frac {1}{2}([AA'X]+[BB'X]+[CC'X]+3[A'XB])

= 1 2 ( 8 2 3 / 4 + 1 3 2 3 / 4 + 1 5 2 3 / 4 + 3 × ( 18 ) ( 18 8 ) ( 18 13 ) ( 18 15 ) ) =\frac {1}{2}(8^2\sqrt{3}/4+13^2\sqrt{3}/4+15^2\sqrt{3}/4+3 \times \sqrt{(18)(18-8)(18-13)(18-15)})

= 1 2 ( 458 3 / 4 + 3 × 30 3 ) =\frac {1}{2}(458\sqrt{3}/4+3 \times 30\sqrt{3})

= 409 3 / 4. =409\sqrt{3}/4.

Since [ABC] also equals N 2 3 / 4 N^2\sqrt{3}/4 , we have

N 2 3 / 4 = 409 3 / 4. N^2\sqrt{3}/4=409\sqrt{3}/4.

Therefore, N 2 = 409 N^2=409 .

Sauvik Mondal
May 20, 2014

if we rotate ABC in 60 degree centered at B,we get the image BCC'(A coincides with C)and X' is the image of X.so,.XC=15,XX'=13(BXX' will be equilateral)and CX=8.using cosine rule on angle XX'C,we get,cos(x'xc)=11/13.again using cosine rule on BXC(angleBXC=60+x'xc), we get N^2=409

Consider Cartesian coordinate system,taking origin at B & x-axis along BC. So B : ( 0 , 0 ) B:(0,0) , C : ( N , 0 ) C:(N,0) & A : ( N / 2 , 3 N / 2 ) A:(N/2,\sqrt{3}N/2) (Height of equilateral triangle is 3 / 2 × s i d e \sqrt{3}/2 \times side ). Now consider a circle of radius 13 with centre B, one of radius 15 with centre C & another of radius 13 with centre A. We get their equations: x 2 + y 2 = 1 3 2 x^2 + y^2 = 13^2 ; ( x N ) 2 + y 2 = 1 5 2 (x-N)^2 + y^2 = 15^2 ; ( x N / 2 ) 2 + ( y 3 N / 2 ) 2 = 8 2 (x-N/2)^2 + (y-\sqrt{3}N/2)^2 = 8^2 . Solving these 3 equations for N 2 N^2 , we get N 2 = 409 N^2=409 .

黎 李
May 20, 2014

60+60=120 8^2+15^2+8*15=409

Calvin Lin Staff
May 13, 2014

Label the vertices in a clockwise manner. Let Y Y be the rotation of X X by 6 0 60^\circ clockwise around A. Then Y C = X B = 13 YC = XB = 13 , A X Y AXY is an isosceles triangle with X A Y = 6 0 \angle XAY = 60^\circ , hence is equilateral and X Y = 8 XY=8 . By cosine rule, cos Y X C = 8 2 + 1 5 2 1 3 2 2 8 15 = 1 2 \cos \angle YXC = \frac {8^2 + 15^2 - 13^2}{2 \cdot 8 \cdot 15 }= \frac {1}{2} , so Y X C = 6 0 \angle YXC = 60^\circ . As such, A X C = A X Y + Y X C = 6 0 + 6 0 = 12 0 \angle AXC = \angle AXY + \angle YXC = 60^\circ + 60^\circ = 120^\circ , which gives A C 2 = 8 2 + 1 5 2 2 8 15 cos 12 0 = 409 AC^2 = 8^2 + 15^2 -2 \cdot 8 \cdot 15 \cdot \cos 120^\circ = 409 .

Abdelhamid Saadi
Apr 3, 2016

A general formula is according to Gardner 1977, pp. 56-57 and 63 :

Given the distances of a point from the three corners of an equilateral triangle, a, b, and c, the length of a side s is given by: 3 ( a 4 + b 4 + c 4 + s 4 ) = ( a 2 + b 2 + c 2 + s 2 ) 2 3(a^4+b^4+c^4+s^4)=(a^2+b^2+c^2+s^2)^2

in our case: 3 ( 8 4 + 1 3 4 + 1 5 4 + N 4 ) = ( 8 2 + 1 3 2 + 1 5 2 + N 2 ) 2 3(8^4 + 13^4 + 15^4 + N^4) = (8^2 + 13^2 + 15^2 + N^2)^2

let x = N 2 x = N^2 :

3 ( x 2 + 83282 ) = ( x + 458 ) 2 3 (x^2 + 83282) = (x + 458)^2

this yields : x = 49 x = 49 or x = 409 x = 409

The first solution is too small to have the point X X inside A B C ABC , so that N 2 = 409 N^2 = 409

NB: N 2 = 49 N^2 = 49 is possible with point X X outside A B C ABC

Great explanation!

Calvin Lin Staff - 5 years, 2 months ago
Sagar Chand
May 20, 2014

area of equilateral triangle = sqrt{3}N^{2}/4

By Herons Formula sqrt{s(s-a)(s-b)(s-c)} = area of triangle

Sum of area of 3 traingles = total area of triangle

(1/4)sqrt{(28+N)(28-N)(N+2)(N-2)} + (1/4)sqrt{(21+N)(21-N)(N+5)(N-5)} +(1/4)sqrt{(23+N)(23-N)(N+7)(N-7)} = sqrt{3}N^{2}/4

sqrt{(7-N^2)(N}

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