Ever so equable II

Geometry Level pending

First problem here .

Does there exist a right prism with positive integer edge lengths such that its volume, surface area and total edge length are all numerically equal?

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2 solutions

David Vreken
Mar 15, 2020

Suppose there does exist a right prism with positive integer edge length such that its volume V V , surface area S S , and total edge length E E are all numerically equal.

Then let the area of the base of the prism be B B , let the perimeter of the base be P P , let the number of sides of the base be n n , and let the length of the lateral sides be h h . Then the volume is V = B h V = Bh , the surface area is S = 2 B + P h S = 2B + Ph , and the total edge length is E = 2 P + n h E = 2P + nh .

Setting S = E S = E and solving for h h gives h = 2 ( B P ) n P h = \frac{2(B - P)}{n - P} , and then setting V = E V = E and substituting h h and solving for B B gives 1 2 ( P + n ± ( n P ) ( n + 3 P ) ) \frac{1}{2}(P + n \pm \sqrt{(n - P)(n + 3P)}) .

For B B to be a real number, ( n P ) ( n + 3 P ) > 0 (n - P)(n + 3P) > 0 or n > P n > P . However, if all the edge lengths are at least a positive integer, P > n P > n . This is a contradiction, so there cannot exist a right prism with positive integer lengths such that V = S = E V = S = E .

Nice approach - much quicker than mine. It seems in both the comparison of base perimeter to the number of sides of the base polygon is key.

Chris Lewis - 1 year, 2 months ago
Chris Lewis
Jun 10, 2019

Say the base of the prism is an n n -gon with area b b and perimeter p p , and say the height of the prism is h h .

p , n , h p,n,h are all positive integers; b b is positive but may or may not be an integer.

We have: Volume: b h bh

Surface area: 2 b + p h 2b+ph

Total edge length: 2 p + n h 2p+nh

First we prove that h > 2 h>2 by considering volume and surface area:

b h = 2 b + p h bh=2b+ph

b ( h 2 ) = p h b(h-2)=ph

Since p h ph is positive, we must have h > 2 h>2 .

Now, equating surface area and total edge length, we have

2 b + p h = 2 p + n h 2b+ph=2p+nh

Multiplying both sides by h h :

2 b h + p h 2 = 2 p h + n h 2 2bh+ph^2=2ph+nh^2

The expressions for volume and total edge length give b h = 2 p + n h bh=2p+nh ; substituting:

2 ( 2 p + n h ) + p h 2 = 2 p h + n h 2 2(2p+nh)+ph^2=2ph+nh^2

Tidying and collecting terms:

4 p + 2 n h 2 p h = n h 2 p h 2 4p+2nh-2ph=nh^2-ph^2

4 p = ( h 2 2 h ) ( n p ) 4p=(h^2 - 2h)(n-p)

The left-hand side is positive, so the right-hand side must be as well. But h > 2 h>2 , so h 2 2 h h^2-2h is positive; hence n p n-p is positive as well, ie n > p n>p .

So the base of the prism is an n n -gon with perimeter p < n p<n ; so at least some of its sides must have length less than 1 1 . But then they can't all be positive integers; hence no such prism exists.

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