Expected Moment (part 3)

A uniform circular disc of mass M M and radius R R is placed at x 2 + y 2 = 1 x^{2}+y^{2}=1 is rotated at a random axis passing through its center and making θ \theta with horizontal 0 ° < θ < 90 ° 0°<\theta<90° . N X Y = θ \angle{NXY}=\theta I have provided the view of system from Y -Y axis. If the expected moment of inertia is α \alpha M R 2 MR^{2} . What is the value of α \alpha ? ? Note The probability distribution is uniform as a function of θ \theta .


The answer is 0.375.

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1 solution

Karan Chatrath
Mar 29, 2020

The disk is parameterised in polar coordinates r r and α \alpha . Consider a mass element on the disk as follows:

d M = M π R 2 r d r d α dM = \frac{M}{\pi R^2}r \ dr \ d\alpha

The position of a point on the disk is:

r p = ( r cos α , r sin α , 0 ) \vec{r}_p = \left(r\cos{\alpha}, r\sin{\alpha},0\right)

The axis makes an angle of θ \theta to the x-axis. The unit vector along which the axis is directed is:

n ^ = cos θ i ^ + sin θ k ^ \hat{n} = \cos{\theta} \hat{i} + \sin{\theta} \hat{k}

The projection of the position vector r p \vec{r}_p along the axis is:

( r p n ^ ) n ^ \left(\vec{r}_p \cdot \hat{n}\right) \hat{n}

The vector perpendicular to the axis to the point on the disk is therefore:

r c = r p ( r p n ^ ) n ^ \vec{r}_c = \vec{r}_p - \left(\vec{r}_p \cdot \hat{n}\right) \hat{n}

The elementary moment of inertia of the disk about this axis is, therefore:

d I = d M r c 2 dI = dM \lvert \vec{r}_c \rvert^2

Substituting and simplifying gives:

d I = M π R 2 r 3 ( cos 2 α sin 2 θ + sin 2 α ) d r d α dI = \frac{M}{\pi R^2} r^3 \left(\cos^2{\alpha}\sin^2{\theta} + \sin^2{\alpha}\right) \ dr \ d\alpha

Integrating gives:

I = M π R 2 0 R 0 2 π r 3 ( cos 2 α sin 2 θ + sin 2 α ) d r d α I = \frac{M}{\pi R^2} \int_{0}^{R} \int_{0}^{2 \pi} r^3 \left(\cos^2{\alpha}\sin^2{\theta} + \sin^2{\alpha}\right) \ dr \ d\alpha

I = M R 2 4 ( 1 + sin 2 θ ) I = \frac{MR^2}{4}\left(1 + \sin^2{\theta}\right)

Having computed the moment of inertia, the next step is to find the average value in the specified range of θ \theta given that θ \theta is uniformly distributed. The expression for that is:

I E = M R 2 2 π 0 π / 2 ( 1 + sin 2 θ ) d θ I_E = \frac{MR^2}{2 \pi} \int_{0}^{\pi/2} \left(1 + \sin^2{\theta}\right) d\theta

I E = 3 8 M R 2 I_E = \frac{3}{8} MR^2

Therefore:

α = 3 8 = 0.375 \boxed{\alpha = \frac{3}{8}=0.375}

@Karan Chatrath Accurate sir

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 2 months ago

Use the formula I PARALLRLE COS SQUARED THETA plus I PERPENDICULAR SIN SQUARED THETA where theta is given in the question. Parallel means parallel to plane containing the figure and perpendicular can be understood in similar way. Here I means moment of inertia which is MR^2,DIVIDED BY 2

raj abhinav - 1 year, 2 months ago

Unable to visualise the arrangement of disc. Can u explain with another daigram. And "Disc is placed at x^2 +y^2=1 " meaning??

neeraj singh - 1 year, 2 months ago

plane of disc is parallel or perpendicular to XY plane?

neeraj singh - 1 year, 2 months ago

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@neeraj singh the disc is placed in XY plane . And it is inside the region of x 2 + y 2 = 1 x^{2} +y^{2}=1

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 2 months ago

@Neeraj Anand Badgujar is axis of rotation passing through origin.

neeraj singh - 1 year, 2 months ago

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@neeraj singh Yes ,it's given in question also.

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 2 months ago

Does this axis pass through the hole of the ring? If so then the moment of inertia isn't MR^2/4(1+sin^2) since plugging in sin = 1 should give the moment of inertia of a ring which is MR^2, but the equation in the answer only gives MR^2/2 which is wrong. When I did the calculations I got MR^2/2(1+sin^2).

Jerry Soong - 1 year, 1 month ago

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@Jerry Soong it's not ring, it is disc. If you plug s i n x = 1 sinx=1 you will get moment of inertia of disc which is M R 2 2 \frac{MR^{2}}{2}

A Former Brilliant Member - 1 year, 1 month ago

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Ahh, I guess I misread the question, my bad... I do suppose it is kinda beautiful that the only thing that separates the answer for a disk and the answer for a ring is a factor of 2.

Jerry Soong - 1 year, 1 month ago

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