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Given that n n is a positive integer, how many values of n n satisfy the equation below?

( n ! ) ! = n ! × ( n 1 ) ! \large (n!)!=n! \times (n-1)!


The answer is 2.

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Michael Fuller
Jan 5, 2016

( n ! ) ! = n ! ( n 1 ) ! (n!)!=n!(n-1)!

( n ! ) ! n ! = ( n 1 ) ! \Rightarrow~ \dfrac{(n!)!}{n!}=(n-1)!

( n ! 1 ) ! = ( n 1 ) ! \Rightarrow~ (n!-1)!=(n-1)!

n ! 1 = n 1 \Rightarrow~ n!-1=n-1

n ! n = 0 \Rightarrow~n!-n=0

n ( ( n 1 ) ! 1 ) = 0 \Rightarrow~n((n-1)!-1)=0

Therefore we have two cases:

Case 1: n = 0 n=0 .

However we are given that n n is a positive integer so we reject this.

Case 2: ( n 1 ) ! 1 = 0 ( n 1 ) ! = 1 (n-1)!-1=0 ~\Rightarrow~ (n-1)!=1 .

A simple check reveals that ( 1 1 ) ! = 0 ! = 1 (1-1)!=0!=1 , ( 2 1 ) ! = 1 ! = 1 (2-1)!=1!=1 , and any integer above n = 2 n=2 will not satisfy the equation. Thus n = 1 n=1 , n = 2 n=2 are the only possibilities.

Therefore there are 2 \large\color{#20A900}{\boxed{2}} solutions, n = 1 n=1 and n = 2 n=2 .

( n ! 1 ) ! = ( n 1 ) ! (n!-1)! = (n-1)! does not imply n ! 1 = n 1 n!-1 = n-1 (see 1 ! = 0 ! 1! = 0! but 1 0 1 \neq 0 ).

Ivan Koswara - 5 years, 5 months ago

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This is true, but as n n is a positive integer a quick check shows that the case 1 ! = 0 ! 1!=0! never occurs.

Michael Fuller - 5 years, 5 months ago

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That is indeed true. Your solution isn't incorrect; it is incomplete.

Ivan Koswara - 5 years, 5 months ago

How did you reach the third line?

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 5 months ago

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( n ! ) ! = n ! × ( n ! 1 ) × ( n ! 2 ) × × 1 (n!)!=n! \times (n!-1) \times (n!-2) \times \dots \times 1

Therefore ( n ! ) ! n ! = ( n ! 1 ) × ( n ! 2 ) × × 1 = ( n ! 1 ) ! \dfrac{(n!)!}{n!}= (n!-1) \times (n!-2) \times \dots \times 1 = (n!-1)!

Michael Fuller - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Okay, Thanks

Rishik Jain - 5 years, 5 months ago

Isn't zero a positive no. ?

Arijit Das - 5 years, 5 months ago

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0 0 is not a positive number, but it's also not a negative number either. The set of positive integers, also known as the natural numbers, include the numbers 1 , 2 , 3 , 1, 2, 3, \dots

Michael Fuller - 5 years, 5 months ago

That is an exception. And, it's the only exception.

Chirag Pangoriya - 5 years, 5 months ago
Tristan Shin
Dec 7, 2016

The equation is equivalent to ( n ! 1 ) ! = ( n 1 ) ! \left(n!-1\right)!=\left(n-1\right)!

Check that n = 1 n=1 and 2 2 both work. If n 3 n\geq3 , then n ! > n 3 n!>n\geq3 , so n ! 1 > n 1 2 n!-1>n-1\geq2 and thus ( n ! 1 ) ! > ( n 1 ) ! \left(n!-1\right)!>\left(n-1\right)! , contradiction. Thus, there are only 2 \boxed{2} solutions.

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Feb 23, 2021

( 1 ! ) ! = 1 ! × ( 1 1 ) ! 1 ! = 1 × 0 ! 1 = 1 × 1 true ( 1! )! = 1! \times ( 1 - 1 )! \rightarrow 1! = 1 \times 0! \rightarrow 1 = 1 \times 1 \rightarrow \text { true } .

( 2 ! ) ! = 2 ! × ( 2 1 ) ! 2 ! = 2 × 1 ! 2 = 2 × 1 true ( 2! )! = 2! \times ( 2 - 1 )! \rightarrow 2! = 2 \times 1! \rightarrow 2 = 2 \times 1 \rightarrow \text { true } .

So, 2 \boxed { 2 } positive integers satisfy the equation.

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