Find f ( 0 ) f(0)

Algebra Level 4

If f : R R f: \mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R} satisfies f ( x + f ( y ) 1 ) = y + f ( x ) f(x+f(y)-1)=y+f(x) , then what is f ( 0 ) f(0) ?

f doesn't exist 0 1 any real works

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Chew-Seong Cheong
Jun 17, 2016

f ( x + f ( y ) 1 ) = y + f ( x ) Let y = x f ( x + f ( x ) 1 ) = x + f ( x ) Let x + f ( x ) = z f ( z 1 ) = z Let z = 1 f ( 0 ) = 1 \begin{aligned} f(x+f(y)-1) & = y + f(x) \quad \quad \color{#3D99F6}{\text{Let } y = x} \\ f(x+f(x)-1) & = x + f(x) \quad \quad \color{#3D99F6}{\text{Let } x + f(x) = z} \\ f(z-1) & = z \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \ \color{#3D99F6}{\text{Let } z = 1} \\ f(0) & = \boxed{1} \end{aligned}


Previous solution

Since y y in the RHS of f ( x + f ( y ) 1 ) = y + f ( x ) f(x+f(y)-1) = y + f(x) has a degree of 1, for the LHS = RHS for all x x and y y , the degree of f f must be 1. So, we can assume f ( x ) = a x + b f(x) = ax + b . Then we have:

f ( x + f ( y ) 1 ) = y + f ( x ) f ( x + a y + b 1 ) = y + a x + b a x + a 2 y + a b a + b = a x + y + b a 2 y + a b a = y \begin{aligned} f(x+f(y)-1) & = y + f(x) \\ f(x + ay + b -1) & = y + ax + b \\ ax + a^2y + ab - a + b & = ax + y + b \\ a^2y + ab - a & = y \end{aligned}

Equating the coefficients of y y and the constant on both sides:

{ a 2 = 1 a = ± 1 a b a = 0 b = 1 \implies \begin{cases} a^2 = 1 & \implies a = \pm 1 \\ ab - a = 0 & \implies b = 1 \end{cases}

f ( x ) = ± x + 1 f ( 0 ) = 1 \begin{aligned} \implies f(x) & = \pm x + 1 \\ f(0) & = \boxed{1} \end{aligned}

f is not necessarily a polynomial; apart from that good solution.

Wen Z - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Yes, you are right. I failed to see that.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 12 months ago

It is a polynomial function of type f ( x ) = x + 1 f(x) = x+1

Akash Shukla - 4 years, 12 months ago

@Wen Z , @Akash Shukla , I have provided another solution.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 12 months ago

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Yes, I did it in the same way. But it can't be done by taking y=ax, a R a \in R

Akash Shukla - 4 years, 12 months ago

Sorry about this but there is also a mistake in this solution...

You can only let z=1 if there exists an x such that x + f ( x ) = 1 x+f(x)=1 .

Wen Z - 4 years, 12 months ago
展豪 張
Jun 23, 2016

f ( x + f ( y ) 1 ) = y + f ( x ) ( 1 ) f(x+f(y)-1)=y+f(x)\cdots(1)
Put x = 1 x=1 , f ( f ( y ) ) = y + f ( 1 ) ( 2 ) f(f(y))=y+f(1)\cdots(2)
Apply f f on both sides of ( 1 ) (1) and simplify with ( 2 ) (2) ,
f ( f ( x + f ( y ) 1 ) ) = f ( y + f ( x ) ) f(f(x+f(y)-1))=f(y+f(x))
x + f ( y ) 1 + f ( 1 ) = f ( y + f ( x ) ) x+f(y)-1+f(1)=f(y+f(x))
Put y = 0 y=0 , x + f ( 0 ) 1 + f ( 1 ) = f ( f ( x ) ) ( 3 ) x+f(0)-1+f(1)=f(f(x))\cdots(3)
Compare ( 2 ) (2) with ( 3 ) (3) , f ( 0 ) = 1 f(0)=1


Put y = 0 y =0 and x = 1 x= 1

f ( 1 + f ( 0 ) 1 ) = 0 + f ( 1 ) f(1 + f(0) - 1) = 0 + f(1)

f ( f ( 0 ) ) = f ( 1 ) \Rightarrow f({\color{#20A900}{f(0)}}) = f({\color{#20A900}{1}})

Hence, f ( 0 ) = 1 f(0) = \boxed{1}

Akash Shukla
Jun 17, 2016

Taking , x = 1 x=1 and y = 0 y=0 ,

we get , f ( 1 + f ( 0 ) 1 ) = 0 + f ( 1 ) f(1+f(0)-1)=0+f(1) ,

( f ( f ( 0 ) ) ) = f ( 1 ) f ( 0 ) = 1 (f(f(0))) =f(1) \implies f(0) = 1

You need to prove injectivity first; that is

f ( a ) = f ( b ) a = b f(a)=f(b) \implies a=b

Wen Z - 4 years, 12 months ago

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