Find position of roots

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Let a a , b b , and c c be the roots of x 3 + x 2 5 x 1 x^{3}+x^{2}-5x-1 . Find a + b + c \lfloor a \rfloor +\lfloor b \rfloor +\lfloor c \rfloor .

Notation: \lfloor \cdot \rfloor denotes the floor function .

-3 -4 3 -2 -1

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Let f ( x ) = x 3 + x 2 5 x 1 f(x) = x^3+x^2-5x-1 , then

f ( x ) = 3 x 2 + 2 x 5 Putting f ( x ) = 0 ( 3 x + 5 ) ( x 1 ) = 0 f ( x ) = 6 x + 2 \begin{aligned} f'(x) & = 3x^2 + 2x - 5 & \small {\color{#3D99F6}\text{Putting }f'(x) = 0} \\ (3x+5)(x-1) & = 0 \\ f''(x) & = 6x + 2 \end{aligned}

f ( x ) = 0 f'(x) = 0 , when

{ x = 5 3 f ( 5 3 ) = 8 < 0 f ( 5 3 ) = 148 27 local maximum x = 1 f ( 1 ) = 8 > 0 f ( 1 ) = 4 local minimum \begin{cases} x = -\frac 53 & \implies f''\left(-\frac 53\right) = - 8 < 0 & \implies f\left(-\frac 53\right) = \frac {148}{27} & \small \text{ local maximum} \\ x = 1 & \implies f''(1) = 8 > 0 & \implies f(1) = -4 & \small \text{ local minimum} \end{cases}

Let roots a < b < c a<b<c , then

  • a < 5 3 1.667 a < - \frac 53 \approx - 1.667 ; since f ( 3 ) = 4 f(-3) = -4 and f ( 2 ) = 5 f(-2) = 5 3 < a < 2 \implies -3 < a < -2 a = 3 \implies \lfloor a \rfloor = -3
  • 1.667 < b < 1 - 1.667 < b < 1 ; since f ( 1 ) = 4 f(-1) = 4 and f ( 0 ) = 1 f(0) = -1 1 < b < 0 \implies -1 < b < 0 b = 1 \implies \lfloor b \rfloor = -1
  • c > 1 c > 1 ; since f ( 1 ) = 4 f(1) = -4 and f ( 2 ) = 1 f(2) = 1 1 < c < 2 \implies 1 < c < 2 c = 1 \implies \lfloor c \rfloor = 1

Therefore, a + b + c = 3 1 + 1 = 3 \lfloor a \rfloor + \lfloor b \rfloor + \lfloor c \rfloor = -3-1+1 = \boxed{-3}

there's a simple mistake. correct that.

Saswata Naha - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks. Was in a hurry.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 4 years, 7 months ago

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