How Would The Egyptians Solve it?

Let x , y x,y and z z be distinct positive integers satisfying

1 x + 1 y + 1 z = 9 10 . \dfrac1x+\dfrac1y+\dfrac1z=\dfrac9{10}.

Find the value of x + y + z x+y+z .


The answer is 20.

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Mark Hennings
Oct 19, 2016

Positive rational numbers can always be written as Egyptian fractions using the so-called Greedy Algorithm. Simply stated, this says that, at each stage, pick the largest possible reciprocal. Proving that the algorithm works is a simple matter of induction (and using the divergence of the harmonic series to handle rationals greater than 1 1 ).

In this case,

  • 1 2 \tfrac12 is the largest reciprocal less than or equal to 9 10 \tfrac{9}{10} , so choose x = 2 x=2 ,
  • 1 3 \tfrac13 is the largest reciprocal less than or equal to 9 10 1 2 = 2 5 \tfrac{9}{10} - \tfrac12 = \tfrac25 , so choose y = 3 y=3 ,
  • 1 15 \tfrac{1}{15} is the largest reciprocal less than or equal to 2 5 1 3 = 1 15 \tfrac25 - \tfrac13 = \tfrac{1}{15} , so choose z = 15 z=15 and we are done.

The answer is 2 + 3 + 15 = 20 2+3+15 = \boxed{20} .

Seth Christman
Oct 6, 2016

Consider 1 3 + 1 4 + 1 5 = 47 60 < 54 60 = 9 10 \dfrac{1}{3}+\dfrac{1}{4}+\dfrac{1}{5}=\dfrac{47}{60}<\dfrac{54}{60}=\dfrac{9}{10} .

This shows that 1 2 \dfrac{1}{2} must be one of the terms. without the loss of generality (WLOG), x = 2 x=2 .

We know have 1 y + 1 z = 2 5 \dfrac{1}{y}+\dfrac{1}{z}=\dfrac{2}{5} . It would be nice to simply have y = z = 5 y=z=5 , but they have to be distinct.

So, we need to find the answer to the question 2 5 = ( a + b ) 5 c \dfrac{2}{5}=\dfrac{(a+b)}{5c} where ( a + b ) = 2 c (a+b)=2c , c c is a constant, and a 5 c a|5c and b 5 c b|5c . So we need a multiple of 2 2 who can be written as the sum of the same multiple of 5 5 . We know c > 2 c>2 since 2 × 2 = 4 < 5 2\times2=4<5 . Using trial and error we try c = 3 c=3 and find that 2 × 3 = 6 = 5 + 1 2\times3=6=5+1 and 5 c = 5 × 3 = 15 5c=5\times3=15 which 5 15 5|15 and 1 15 1|15 .

So are two fractions are 1 15 \dfrac{1}{15} and 5 15 = 1 3 \dfrac{5}{15}=\dfrac{1}{3} implying y = 3 y=3 and z = 15 z=15 .

Then x + y + z = 2 + 3 + 15 = 20 x+y+z=2+3+15=20

P.S. Please post a solution that doesn't use trial and error, I kind of just stumbled upon using 1 3 \dfrac{1}{3} and figured out that 1 15 \dfrac{1}{15} would fill in the void.

We can rewrite 1 y + 1 z = 2 5 \dfrac{1}{y} + \dfrac{1}{z} = \dfrac{2}{5} as ( 2 y 5 ) ( 2 z 5 ) = 25 (2y - 5)(2z - 5) = 25 . As we want y z y \ne z we can then set 2 y 5 = 1 , 2 z 5 = 25 y = 3 , z = 15 2y - 5 = 1, 2z - 5 = 25 \Longrightarrow y = 3, z = 15 .

Brian Charlesworth - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Or, we can also use the identity 1 a = 1 a + 1 + 1 a ( a + 1 ) \frac{1}{a} = \frac{1}{a+1} + \frac{1}{a(a+1)} . So 1 5 = 1 6 + 1 30 2 5 = 1 3 + 1 15 \frac{1}{5} = \frac{1}{6}+\frac{1}{30} \rightarrow \frac{2}{5} = \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{15} .

Christopher Boo - 4 years, 8 months ago

why does 1 2 \dfrac{1}{2} must be one of the terms?

Bloons Qoth - 4 years, 8 months ago

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If 1 2 \frac{1}{2} is excluded, then, since x , y , z x,y,z must be distinct, the maximum possible value of 1 x + 1 y + 1 z \frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{z} is 1 3 + 1 4 + 1 5 = 47 60 \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{4} + \frac{1}{5} = \frac{47}{60} . As this is less than 9 10 \frac{9}{10} we can conclude that 1 2 \frac{1}{2} must be one of the fractions included in the sum.

Brian Charlesworth - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Okay, that makes sense :)

Bloons Qoth - 4 years, 2 months ago

Your argument that "need a multiple of 2 such that..."is abit misleading since at the end of the day, you have one of them is 1. We know a+b must be greater than 5. But either a or b need not be greater than 5.

Gambler Ho - 4 years, 7 months ago
Rushikesh Jogdand
Oct 12, 2016

We can write given equation as 1 x + 1 y + 1 z + 1 10 = 1 1 \frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{z} + \frac{1}{10} = \frac{1}{1} Using Fibonacci's identity regarding Egyptian fractions 1 1 = 1 2 + 1 2 \frac{1}{1} = \frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{2} , so maybe x = 2 x = 2 . Which gives 1 y + 1 z + 1 10 = 1 2 \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{z} + \frac{1}{10} = \frac{1}{2} Again 1 2 = 1 3 + 1 6 \frac{1}{2} = \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{6} , so maybe y = 3 y = 3 . Which gives 1 z + 1 10 = 1 6 \frac{1}{z} + \frac{1}{10} = \frac{1}{6} Hmm, 1 6 1 10 = ? \frac{1}{6} - \frac{1}{10} = ? BINGO! z = 15 \text{BINGO!}\quad z = 15 I don't know whether this method gives guaranteed solution or if this is just another trial and error method.

Daniel Ferreira
Oct 31, 2016

Desenvolvendo,

1 x + 1 y + 1 z = 9 10 x y + x z + y z x y z = 9 10 \\ \mathsf{\frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{z} = \frac{9}{10}} \\\\\\ \mathsf{\frac{xy + xz + yz}{xyz} = \frac{9}{10}}

Desse modo, temos que: k Z \mathsf{\exists \ k \in \mathbb{Z}} tal que x y + x z + y z x y z = 9 k 10 k \mathsf{\frac{xy + xz + yz}{xyz} = \frac{9k}{10k}} .

Com efeito, obtemos { x y + x z + y z = 9 k ( i ) x y z = 10 k ( i i ) \begin{cases} \mathsf{xy + xz + yz = 9k \quad \quad (i)} \\ \mathsf{x \cdot y \cdot z = 10k \qquad \qquad (ii)} \end{cases} .

De ( i i ) \mathsf{(ii)} , x y z = 2 5 k \mathsf{x \cdot y \cdot z = 2 \cdot 5 \cdot k} . Portanto, sem perda de generalidade, x = 2 \boxed{\mathsf{x = 2}} , y = 5 \boxed{\mathsf{y = 5}} e z = k \boxed{\mathsf{z = k}} ; substituindo em ( i ) \mathsf{(i)} ,

x y + x z + y z = 9 k 2 5 + 2 k + 5 k = 9 k 10 = 9 k 7 k k = 5 \\ \mathsf{xy + xz + yz = 9k} \\\\ \mathsf{2 \cdot 5 + 2 \cdot k + 5 \cdot k = 9k} \\\\ \mathsf{10 = 9k - 7k} \\\\ \boxed{\mathsf{k = 5}}

Mas, de acordo com o enunciado, x, y e z são inteiros distintos. Ou seja, z 5 \mathsf{z \neq 5} . Então,

1 x + 1 y + 1 z = 1 2 + 1 5 + 1 5 = 1 2 + 2 × 3 5 × 3 = 1 2 + 6 15 = \\ \mathsf{\frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{y} + \frac{1}{z} =} \\\\\\ \mathsf{\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{5} + \frac{1}{5} =} \\\\\\ \mathsf{\frac{1}{2} + \frac{2^{\times 3}}{5^{\times 3}} =} \\\\\\ \mathsf{\frac{1}{2} + \frac{6}{15} =}

1 2 + ( 5 15 + 1 15 ) = 1 2 + 1 3 + 1 15 \\ \mathsf{\frac{1}{2} + \left ( \frac{5}{15} + \frac{1}{15} \right ) =} \\\\\\ \mathsf{\frac{1}{2} + \frac{1}{3} + \frac{1}{15}}

Logo,

x + y + z = 2 + 3 + 15 x + y + z = 20 \\ \mathsf{x + y + z = 2 + 3 + 15} \\\\ \boxed{\boxed{\mathsf{x + y + z = 20}}}

Best solution.

Prince Raj - 4 years, 7 months ago

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Thanks, brother!

Daniel Ferreira - 4 years, 7 months ago
Somaditya Santra
Oct 16, 2016

1/x+1/y+1/z=9/10

Therefore, gcd(x,y,z) is a multiple of 10, like 10,20 or 30.

hence 9/10=18/20=27/30=d/n.

and x,y,z must divide the denominator,like 10 or 20 or 30.

d/x+d/y+d/z=n

Now only 2 and 5 divide 10. Thus it has no solution.

2,4,5,10 divide 20. it also does not have any solution.

2,3,4,5,6,10,15 divide 30.

30/2+30/3+30/15=15+10+2=27

This gives 1/2+1/3+1/15=27/30=9/10

Well, you need to just check the first few cases.

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