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Algebra Level 2

What is the largest possible value of 15 sin x + 8 cos x , 15\sin x +8\cos x, where x x is a real number?

8 5 17 15

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57 solutions

Alfredo Saracho
Jul 14, 2013

Let it be 8 = R sin a 8=R \sin a 15 = R cos a , 15=R \cos a, so that, the original expression becomes 15 sin x + 8 cos x = R ( sin x cos a + sin a cos x ) , 15 \sin x + 8 \cos x = R \left( \sin x \cos a + \sin a \cos x \right), which in turn, leads to = R sin ( x + a ) . = R \sin\left( x+a\right). Solving the first system for R R by squaring both equations and adding them, we get 8 2 + 1 5 2 = R 2 sin 2 a + R 2 cos 2 a = R 2 , 8^2 + 15^2 = R^2 \sin^2 a + R^2 \cos^2 a = R^2, because sin 2 α + cos 2 α = 1 \sin^2\alpha + \cos^2\alpha =1 for any α \alpha . Hence, R = 17 R=17 . The original expression is equivalent to 17 sin ( x + a ) 17\sin\left(x+a\right) but since sin ( x + a ) 1 \left| \sin(x+a)\right|\leq 1 , we find that the maximum it's exactly 17 .

Moderator note:

Good approach. The "R method" is often forgotten, by students who need to evaluate a linear combination of sin θ , cos θ \sin \theta, \cos \theta . You've got my vote.

Mostafa's method is so wrong still people are voting for it! Shame! What Alfredo did is one of those clever methods where you don't have to relay on calculators.

Snehal Shekatkar - 7 years, 11 months ago
Cody Martin
Jul 15, 2013

y = 15 s i n x + 8 cos x y=15sinx+8\cos x d d x ( 15 s i n x + 8 cos x ) = 0 \frac{ d }{ dx }(15sinx+8\cos x)=0 y = 15 cos x 8 sin x = 0 y'=15\cos x-8 \sin x=0 tan x = 15 8 \tan x=\frac{ 15 }{ 8 } x is in the first quadrant as both sine and cosine functions are positive in 1st quadrant so we have, sin x = 15 17 \sin x=\frac{ 15 }{ 17 } cos x = 8 17 \cos x=\frac{ 8 }{ 17 } so 225 17 + 64 17 = 17 \frac{ 225 }{ 17 }+\frac{ 64 }{ 17 }=17

since x is in the first quadrant so u can realise that it is an acute angle now tan x is basically the ratio of perpendicular side and the base that is it is the ratio of the side opposite to the angle x and the side with which the angle is made now you have perpendicular side=15 , base side=8 now from pythogoras theorem u have hypotenuse=17 now sin x is perpendicular/hypotenuse so u have 15/17

Cody Martin - 7 years, 10 months ago

hi there, i could not understand why sinx = 15/17 and not 15 instead. Couldnt realize why we have this /17. can you help me?

conta em desuso - 7 years, 10 months ago
Mostafa Ismail
Jul 14, 2013

15 sin x + 8 cos x ~~~~~~~~>Maximum
So by differentiating and putting the result equal to zero we get the value of x for maximum result (Maxima);
15 cos x - 8 sin x = 0
15 cos x = 8 sin x
sin x / cos x = 15/8
tan x = 15/8 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> x =61.92751306
Substituting in the equation we get; 15 sin 61.92751306 + 8 cos 61.92751306 = 17



Moderator note:

Avoid using approximate values, since that doesn't give you an exact answer.

How else can you go from tan x = 15 8 \tan x = \frac{ 15}{8} to conclude that 15 sin x + 8 cos x = 17 15 \sin x + 8 \cos x = 17 ?

You have done actual numerical calculation of x and thus is very bad solution I think. There is much clever way to solve this without explicitly calculating x. Moreover you don't prove that it is maximum using second derivative (Though it is obvious).

Snehal Shekatkar - 7 years, 11 months ago

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This is just the calculus approach..and sure you could do as Khondaker did using Pythagoras rule to get sin x and cos x by knowing tan x without using a calculator.

Mostafa Ismail - 7 years, 10 months ago

Resolved it the same way .

Tiberiu Burlacu - 7 years, 11 months ago

I solved it the same way .

Peter Atef - 7 years, 11 months ago

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I also solved in this way , first i tried 16 and then 17

Piyush Kaushik - 7 years, 11 months ago
Andrias Meisyal
Jul 14, 2013

We can solve this problem using trigonometric identity. First, guide the 15 sin x + 8 cos x * to the trigometric identity of * cos( a - b ) , that proved by same with:

Rcos( a - b ) = *Rcos a .cos b* + Rsin a .sin b **, assuming that R is an integer.

Now, compare this function at the problem with that trigonometric identity, and We can catch the pattern, delcare that x = Rcos a * = 8 and * y = Rsin a * = 15. Then, * x^{2} + y^{2} = R^{2}.((sin a )^{2} + (cos a )^{2}) . Since, (sin a )^{2} + (cos a )^{2} = 1 .

Hence, x^{2} + y^{2} = R^{2} as well as the maximum values of that function. So, the maximum value of that function is \sqrt{8^{2} + \sqrt{15^{2}} = 17 .

Divyansh Singhal
Jul 15, 2013

√(15^2+8^2)=√17^2=17

Khondaker Sadman
Jul 15, 2013

Solution by setting derivative = 0

y = 15sin(x) + 8cos(x)

y' = 15cos(x) - 8sin(x) = 0 --> tan(x) = 15 8 \frac{15}{8}

Draw the triangle that represents tan(x) = 15 8 \frac{15}{8} , that is a right triangle with an angle x and the opposite side 15 and adjacent side 8. By Pythagorean Theorem, h y p o t e n u s e 2 hypotenuse^{2} = 1 5 2 15^{2} + 8 2 8^{2} --> hypotenuse = 17. Now evaluate y using this triangle y = 15sin(x) + 8cos(x) = 15( 15 17 \frac{15}{17} ) + 8( 8 17 \frac{8}{17} ) = 17

Sitesh Pattanaik
Jul 15, 2013

sqrt{(15)^2+8^2}=17

Divide and Multiply the expression with 17..

or, the given expression becomes 17[ 15/17(sinx )+ 8/17(cosx)]

let 15/17 = siny

then 8/17= cosy

Puting the values in the above expression we get 17[siny.sinx+ cosy.cosx] = 17[cos(x-y)]

Max. value of cos(x-y)=1

Therefore the max value of the given expression is 17.

Kanming Xu
Jul 15, 2013

Graphing the function, the largest value is y= 17 when x = 1.08, very close to pi/3.

Using calculus, you can find the derivative , but with algebra, graphing is the best way.

Y' = 15cosx -8sinx = 0 15cosx = 8 sinx 15/8 = tanx X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Ivan Sekovanić
Jul 15, 2013

First off, by finding the first derivative of the expression we have

y = 15 c o s x 8 s i n x 15 c o s x = 8 s i n x t g x = 15 / 8 y'=15cosx-8sinx \Rightarrow 15cosx=8sinx \Rightarrow tgx=15/8

Therefore, since a r c t g x = 1 , 08 arctgx=1,08 we can come to a conclusion that x = 61 , 92 x=61,92 .

Furthermore, f ( 61 , 92 ) = 17 f(61,92)=17 which is also the maximum value of the equation.

Sharath Gavini
Jul 14, 2013

For the expressions like +(or)-asinx+(or)-bcosx the maximum value is square root (a^2+b^2)

Soham Chanda
Jul 16, 2013

Use cauchy schwarz,the two sequences would be sinx,cosx and 15,8

Vaibhav Reddy
Jul 15, 2013

a( sin x ) + b( cos x ) +c maximum c + [ a^2 + b^2 ]^(1/2)

Indraneel Sarkar
Jul 15, 2013

This is a property which i learnt in class 11..the property is as such {-sqrt(a^2 + b^2)<=asin(x) + bcos(x)<=sqrt(a^2 + b^2)}.....this suggests the range of the asin(x) + bcos(x)...{where a and b are the coefficients of sin x and cos x respectively)

Arnav Shringi
Jul 15, 2013

Graphing the function, the largest value is y= 17 when x = 1.08, very close to pi/3.

Using calculus, you can find the derivative , but with algebra, graphing is the best way.

Y' = 15 cos x -8 sin x = 0 15 cos x = 8 sin x 15/8 = tan x X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Daniel Thompson
Jul 15, 2013

15 sin ( x ) + 8 cos ( x ) 15\sin(x) +8\cos(x) can be written as 17 ( 15 17 sin ( x ) + 8 15 cos ( x ) ) 17(\frac{15}{17}\sin(x) +\frac{8}{15}\cos(x)) . Let α \alpha be an angle such that tan ( α ) = 8 15 \tan(\alpha) = \frac{8}{15} , then the expression equals 17 ( cos ( α ) sin ( x ) + sin ( α ) cos ( x ) ) 17(\cos(\alpha)\sin(x)+\sin(\alpha)\cos(x)) which is equivalent to 17 sin ( arctan ( 8 15 ) + x ) 17\sin(\arctan(\frac{8}{15})+x) . Since 1 sin ( θ ) 1 -1 \leq \sin(\theta) \leq 1 , 17 17 sin ( arctan ( 8 15 ) + x ) 17 -17 \leq 17\sin(\arctan(\frac{8}{15})+x) \leq 17 . So the maximum value of the expression is 17 17 .

Ben Williams
Jul 15, 2013

f ( x ) = 15 s i n x + 8 c o s x f(x)=15sinx+8cosx

=> f ( x ) = 15 c o s ( x ) 8 s i n ( x ) f'(x)=15cos(x)-8sin(x)

f ( x ) = 0 = > t a n ( x ) = 15 8 f'(x)=0 => tan(x)=\frac{15}{8}

Apply pythag t a n ( x ) = o p p o s i t e a d j a c e n t = > h y p o t e n u s e = ( 1 5 2 + 8 2 ) 1 2 = 17 tan(x)=\frac{opposite}{adjacent} =>hypotenuse=(15^{2}+8^{2})^{\frac{1}{2}}=17

So, at maximum point, s i n ( x ) = 15 17 , c o s ( x ) = 8 17 sin(x) = \frac{15}{17} ,cos(x)=\frac{8}{17}

=> f ( x ) = 15 × 15 17 + 8 × 8 17 = 17. f(x)=\frac{15\times15}{17}+\frac{8\times8}{17}=17.

Sanjay Banerji
Jul 15, 2013

For:- [a * sin θ \sin \theta ] + [b * cos θ \cos \theta ]

Maximum Value: sqrt[ (b^2) + (a^2) ]

Minimum Value: sqrt[ (b^2) - (a^2) ]

Sam Sn
Jul 14, 2013

for any question of the form a sin(x) + b cos (x) answer will be (a^2 + b^2)^(1/2) so according to question 15^2 = 225 8^2 = 64 225 + 64 = 289 square root of 289 will be 17 so 17 is answer

Otávio Sales
Jul 14, 2013

I'm plot in Graphmática!

But, the solution is

I'm derive (differenciacion) y=15sinx+8cosx y'=15cosx-8sinx

The maximo is 15cox-8sinx=0 15cosx=8sqrt(1-(cosx)^2)

Solve the equation in Maxima x=17

Ben Habeahan
Jul 14, 2013

We can use a cos x + b sin x with (a^{2} +b^{2})^{1/2} * sin(X+ f) Then the maximum value if sin(x+f) is 1. So (25^{2} + 8^{2})^{1/2} = 17

Mehul Bafna
Nov 17, 2014

Maximum Value of asinx+bcosx=Sqrt(a^2+b^2) hence 17

Mouad Mellouki
Jul 21, 2013

EquAl=17

Justin Stevens
Jul 21, 2013

We have 15 sin x + 8 cos x = 17 ( 15 17 sin x + 8 17 cos x ) = 17 ( sin ( θ + x ) ) 15\sin x+8\cos x=17\left( \frac{15}{17}\sin x+\frac{8}{17}\cos x\right)=17(\sin(\theta+x)) where θ = cos 1 15 17 \theta=\cos^{-1}\frac{15}{17} . We know that 17 sin ( θ + x ) 17 17\sin(\theta+x)\le 17 therefore the maximum value is 17 \boxed{17} .

Prateek Jain
Jul 21, 2013

Graphing the function, the largest value is y= 17 when x = 1.08, very close to pi/3.

Using calculus, you can find the derivative , but with algebra, graphing is the best way.

Y' = 15cosx -8sinx = 0 15cosx = 8 sinx 15/8 = tanx X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Santanu Banerjee
Jul 21, 2013

Max value of a sin θ \sin \theta +b cos θ \cos \theta is [(a^2)+(b^2)]^0.5

Max value of a sin θ \sin \theta +b cos θ \cos \theta is [(a^2)-(b^2)]^0.5

Doni Wardoyo
Jul 21, 2013

To find the maximum value, we must differentiate it. d(15 sin x + 8 cos x) / dx = 0 ==> 15 cos x - 8 sin x = 0. Hence we get that tan x = 15/8. The value of x must be x = arc tan 15/8 = 61.92. Substitute this value : 15 sin 61.92 + 8 cos 61.92 = 16.99 = 17

Bruce Wen
Jul 21, 2013

Using Lagrange Notation for differentiation,

f(x) = 15sin(x) + 8cos(x) f'(x) = 15cos(x) - 8sin(x)

Let f'(x) = 0 to maximise the function so, 15cos(x) = 8sin(x) Hence, tan(x) = 15/8 Therefore, x = tan-1(15/8) so, 15sin(x) + 8cos(x) = 17

Parag Bobade
Jul 21, 2013

y= 15sinx + 8cosx

Take derivative of y to find the maxima, dy/dx = 15cosx- 8sinx =0

tanx = 15/8 ( for maximum y)

for a triangle with sides , 15, 8 and the third side 17 ( by pythagoras theorem)

substitute the values in original equation to get the maximum value of y

Kshitij Varshney
Jul 21, 2013

The maximum and minimum value of asinx + bcosx is (plus minus ) root(a^2+b^2) so root of (225+64) is 17

A7 Jack
Jul 20, 2013

Graphing the function, the largest value is y= 17 when x = 1.08, very close to pi/3.

Using calculus, you can find the derivative , but with algebra, graphing is the best way.

Y' = 15cosx -8sinx = 0 15cosx = 8 sinx 15/8 = tanx X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Rokibul Roky
Jul 20, 2013

Let, f(x)=15sinx+8cosx .Then f '(x)=15cosx-8sinx.Now, for largest possible value f '(x)=0 then x=61.927513 . so f(x)=17.

15sinx+8cosx = 17 sin( x + p) where sinp =8/17 and cosp = 15/17 then the maximun values of sin(x+p) = 1 then the maximun values of 15sinx+8cosx will be 17

Vaibhav Vashishth
Jul 20, 2013

We know that the max. Value of the expression asinx + bcosx is square root of (a^2+b^2) comparing 15sinx + 8cosx to asinx +bcosx we get a=15 and b=8 so the max. Value is (15^2+8^2)^1/2 = 17

Shubham Kumar
Jul 20, 2013

By observation as we can see that 15 and 8 are the parts of the pythagorean triplet (8,15,17).

8^2 + 15^2 = 17^2.

17(15/17 sinx + 8/17 cosx) ........(i)

Let sinA = 8/17. (A be acute angle.) Therefore, cosA = 15/17.

Expression (i) can be written as 17 sin(x + A). .........(ii)

And we know that value of sin(x + A) ranges from [0,1].

Therefore, maximum value of Expression (ii) is 17.

Peri Abhishek
Jul 20, 2013

by differentiating the given equation we get tanx=15/8 from there sinx=15/17,cosx=8/17 so substitute these values in the given equation

Sourav Chaudhuri
Jul 20, 2013

the double derivative is negative is negative thus a maxima is to be obtained in a single derivative. the derivative is tanx=15/8 or sinx is 15/17 and cosx =8/17 thus putting in the values we get 17

Tran Trung Nguyen
Jul 20, 2013

Y' = 15cosx -8sinx = 0 15cosx = 8 sinx 15/8 = tanx X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Ho Wei Haw
Jul 20, 2013

By making use of the R-formula,

15 sin x + 8 cos x = R sin (x + a) where R is a positive real number and a is an acute angle.

By expanding the RHS, one will get R sin x cos a + R cos x sin a

Equating the coefficients of sin x and cos x, 15 = R cos a and 8 = R sin a

By making use of the trigonometric identity sin^2 x + cos^2 x = 1, we have R^2 = 15^2 + 8^2 So, R = 17.

This means that we can rewrite the expression above as 15 sin x + 8 cos x = 17 sin (x + a)

It will be clear that 17 will be the largest possible value of the expression.

Reetesh Ranjan
Jul 20, 2013
Jean Lille
Jul 19, 2013

d(15sinx + 8cosx)/dx = 15cosx - 8sinx Set 15cosx - 8sinx = 0 Thus, 15cosx = 8sinx (x =/= n*pi/2) tan(x) = 15/8, x = arctan(15/8) Input the positive value of x

Do Minh Gia An
Jul 19, 2013

Graphing the function, the largest value is y= 17 when x = 1.08, very close to pi/3.

Using calculus, you can find the derivative , but with algebra, graphing is the best way.

Y' = 15cosx -8sinx = 0 15cosx = 8 sinx 15/8 = tanx X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Algelo Esparagoza
Jul 19, 2013

Y' = 15cosx -8sinx = 0 15cosx = 8 sinx 15/8 = tanx X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Devesh Gudway
Jul 19, 2013

Do it using Maxima and Minima

Let f(x) = 15 sin(x) + 8 cos(x)

d(f(x))/dx = 15cos - 8 sin(x)

for maxima d(f(x)) = 0

So 15sin(x) = 8cos(x)

so we get

tan(x) = (15/8)

Hence , sin(x) = (15/17) cos(x) = (8/17)

putting these values we get

maximum value of the given expression as 17

Prashant Khatokar
Jul 19, 2013

for max of acosx+bsinx we have y=root of ( a square + b square )

Vaibhav Vashishth
Jul 19, 2013

first method. for max. value differentiation of 15sinx+8cosx should be equal to 0. so d/dx(15sinx+8cosx)=0 solving this we have 15cosx-8sinx=o = tanx=15/8 so by this we have sinx=15/17 cosx=8/17 putting these values in
15sinx+8cosx we get the ans.i.e. 17.....

second method. we know that the max value of asinx + bcosx is √a^2+b^2 so comparing asinx + bcosx to 15sinx + 8 cosx we have a=15 b=8 so max. value is √15^2+8^2=√289 =17

Iqra Ati
Jul 19, 2013

15cosx -8sinx = 0 15cosx = 8 sinx 15/8 = tanx X= tan^-1(15/8) X= 1.0808... Then f(1.0808) = 17

Dani Bartomeus
Jul 19, 2013

f(x) = 15sin x + 8cos x f'(x) = 0 give the solution

Aruna Pk
Jul 18, 2013

For any general equation of form
a s i n X + b c o s X asinX + bcosX = ( a 2 + b 2 ) \sqrt( a^2+b^2) ( a s i n X ( a 2 + b 2 ) + b c o s X ( a 2 + b 2 ) ) (\frac{asinX}{\sqrt( a^2+b^2)} + \frac{bcosX}{\sqrt( a^2+b^2)})

as a,b, ( a 2 + b 2 ) \sqrt( a^2+b^2) forms a pythagorean triplet = ( a 2 + b 2 ) ( c o s K s i n X + s i n K c o s X ) = \sqrt( a^2+b^2) ( cosKsinX+ sinKcosX)

= ( a 2 + b 2 ) ( s i n ( K + X ) =\sqrt( a^2+b^2)(sin(K+X) as sin t, t=K+X can have max value of 1 , therefore maxval of given equation = ( a 2 + b 2 ) =\sqrt( a^2+b^2) On substituting a and b we get ( a 2 + b 2 ) \sqrt( a^2+b^2) = 17

Jackie Nguyen
Jul 17, 2013

A = 17 (sinasinx + cosacosx) = 17 cos(x-a) <= 17 with sina = 15/17

Praseed Melethil
Jul 17, 2013

since the coefficient of sinx is the largest .try x=60 degree. else (when coefficient of cos is the largest) try x=30 degree.

Avik Sarkar
Jul 16, 2013

Let 15=r sina and 8=r cosa,squaring and adding, 225+64=r^{2}sin^{2}a+r^{2}cos^{2}a =>r^{2}(sin^{2}+cos^{2})=289 =>r=17 So now,15sinx+8cosx=rsinasinx+rcosacosx=r(cosacosx+sinasinx)=r(cos(a-x))

Now cos x is max when it is 1.and r =17,so max value is 17*1=17

Rishabh Nain
Jul 16, 2013

taking eq
15sinx+8cosx now divide it by underroot(15^2+8^2) we get 17(sinx 15/17 + cosx 8/17) it can be seen as 17(sinx cosy + cosx siny)

as siny^2 + cosy^2 =1 thus we get 17(sin(x+y)) we know that maximum value of sinq is 1 . taking sin(x+y) as 1 . we get 17 as answer.

Ricardo Moreno
Jul 16, 2013

In order to solve the problem we can consider the function f(x)=15sinx+8cosx . Since the function is differentiable (and thus continuous) for all values of x it´s largest value must have a derivative equal to zero. We take the first derivative of the function: f´(x)= 15cosx - 8sinx and make it equal to zero. We solve for x (take the smaller value)---> x= arctg (15/8). Use the second derivative to prove it is a maximun. The value of the function for this is 17.

Luan Correia
Jul 16, 2013

Defina por f(x) = 15 sen x + 8 cos x , veja que queremos encontrar o máximo de f(x). Um truque muito utilizado quando se tem uma expressão desse tipo é o truque do triângulo retângulo, que trata-se da construção de um triângulo retângulo com catetos 15 e 8. Assim, a hipotenusa desse triângulo vale 17, logo temos as seguintes relações para um ângulo y qualquer desse triângulo: (I) 15 = 17cos y (II) 8 = 17sen y

Substituindo (I) e (II) em f(x) : f(x) = 17sen x.cos y + 17sen y.cos x f(x) = 17sen (x+y) 17 é uma constante, então o máximo de f(x) se dará no máximo de sen (x + y), que é facilmente encontrado, valendo 1. Logo, máx(f(x)) ; 17.1 = 17

Francis Naldo
Jul 16, 2013

we know that tan θ \tan \theta = \frac{\(\sin \theta }{ cos θ \cos \theta })

by knowing this, we can use the Pythagorean Theorem: \sqrt{\(15^{2} + 8 2 8^{2} })

which is equal to 17 ^_^

Albert Gv
Jul 16, 2013

acosx+bsinx=sqrt(a^2+b^2)*cos(x-p)

8cosx+15sinx=sqrt(8^2+15^2) cos(x-p)=17cos(x-p) since maximum of cos(x-p)=1 then the maximum 17cos(x-p)=17 1=17

Wardun Naeem
Jul 15, 2013

sin45=cos45 & it is the largest value.so x should be 45

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