Find the solutions for x

Algebra Level 2

5 2 x + 5 5 = 5 x + 3 + 5 x + 2 \large 5^{2x}+5^5=5^{x+3}+5^{x+2}

Find the sum of the solutions of x x that satisfy the equation above.


The answer is 5.

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7 solutions

Arghyanil Dey
Apr 29, 2014

Take 5 x = p 5^{x}=p

Then, p 2 + 5 5 = 5 2 p + 5 3 p p^{2}+5^{5}=5^{2}p+5^{3}p .
( p 25 ) × ( p 125 ) = 0 (p-25)×(p-125)=0

Then, p = 5 2 , p = 5 3 p=5^{2} , p=5^{3}

Then x = 3 , x = 2 x=3,x=2

Easy but good question.

Arghyanil Dey - 7 years, 1 month ago

I solved in the same way, but brilliant did not accepted it (neither 2 nor 3)

Muhammad Abdullah - 6 years, 10 months ago

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because it asked for the sum of solutions..that will be 5

Amit Kumar - 6 years, 10 months ago

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same here :D

Süheyla Dilşat Karaarslan - 4 years, 9 months ago

Good problem

pukhraj meena - 6 years, 10 months ago

awesome...did it the same way

Krishna Ramesh - 7 years, 1 month ago

very simple but challenging question. Wasn't able to do it,thanks.

pranav jangir - 7 years, 1 month ago

Great !

anoir trabelsi - 7 years, 1 month ago

good question,needed a different approach...:(

Joe Pauly - 6 years, 11 months ago

, .. good answer,.. :)

Farhan Willbenggaplekiperson Nguenhuh - 6 years, 10 months ago

Take 5^x1 and 5^x2 are the roots of the equation 5^2x -6.5^2(5^x) +5^5=0, so that (5^x1)*(5^x2) = 5^5. So x1+x2=5

rusli azis - 6 years, 10 months ago

Am I missing something here? Does x=3 not work also?

Graham Johnson - 4 years, 9 months ago

great one cudnt solve

Romil Shah - 6 years, 11 months ago

log(5^2x+5^5)=log(5^(x+3)+5^(x+2)) 2x*5=(x+3)(x+2) 10x=x^2+5x+6

Mir Sufian - 6 years, 11 months ago

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how to turn log(5^2x+5^5)=log(5^(x+3)+5^(x+2)) into 2x*5=(x+3)(x+2) ?? can u pls show me the step? i really want to know =)

Hao Zhe Loh - 6 years, 11 months ago

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Yep, that's wrong.

Sam Cheung - 6 years, 11 months ago

Are you crazzy

Govind Narayan A - 6 years, 10 months ago

Nice approach, but it's easy just to see that 2x and 5 must be equal to x+3 and x+2, therefore gives the solutions 2 and 3.

Sam Cheung - 6 years, 11 months ago

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You've simply restated the question.

Rakshit Pandey - 6 years, 11 months ago

¬¬' what's the fun in doing things this way

Pedro Fischer - 6 years, 10 months ago
Eva Donlon
Jul 13, 2014

Taking the original equation, I want to isolate 5 x 5^{x}

So I rewrite it: ( 5 x ) 2 + 5 5 = ( 5 x ) ( 5 3 ) + ( 5 x ) ( 5 2 ) . (5^{x})^{2} + 5^{5} = (5^{x} )(5^{3} ) + (5^{x} )(5^{2}) .

Now I sub in y for 5 x 5^{x} and rearrange it a bit to make it into a simple quadratic equation: y 2 ( 5 3 + 5 2 ) y + ( 5 3 ) ( 5 2 ) = 0 y^{2} - (5^{3} + 5^{2} )y + (5^{3})(5^{2}) = 0 .

Now I can easily factorise this equation:

( y 5 3 ) ( y 5 2 ) = 0 (y - 5^{3} ) (y - 5^{2}) = 0

y = 5 3 y = 5^{3} OR y = 5 2 y = 5^{2}

Then sub in 5 x 5^{x} again :

5 x = 5 3 5^{x} = 5^{3} 5 x = 5 2 5^{x} = 5^{2}

x = 3 x = 3 OR x = 2 x = 2

So the sum of the solutions is 3 + 2 = 5. 3 + 2 = 5.

Nice, creative approach.

Rakshit Pandey - 6 years, 11 months ago

Nice answer!!

Ngan Tran - 6 years, 11 months ago

Nice. Good Job !

Guntur Hermawan - 6 years, 10 months ago

1) if x+3=5 & x+2=2x, both are satisfied then x is a solution 2) if x+3=2x & x+2=5 both are satisfied then x is a solution, Case 1 gives x=2, and case 2 gives x=3, so the sum is 3+2=5.

Member Wilcox
Jul 16, 2014

All the bases are 5 and the exponents on each side add up to the same total. So we must allocate the exponents across the two terms in the same way on each side or the sums will not match, although we can change the order. So the 5^5 term either matches 5^(X+3) or 5^(X+2). The two solutions are 2 and 3. The sum is 5.

Kenneth Tay
Jul 12, 2014

Note that the exponents on both sides add up to the same value: 2 x + 5 2x + 5 .

Note that the function f ( x ) = 5 x f(x) = 5^x is convex. Hence, if a + b = c + d with a < c d < b a < c \leq d < b , we have 5 a + 5 b > 5 c + 5 d . 5^a + 5^b > 5^c + 5^d.

Thus, to obtain equality, we must have { 2 x , 5 } = { x + 3 , x + 2 } \{ 2x, 5\} = \{x+3, x+2\} . Considering the 2 possible permutations, we obtain x = 2 or 3.

Sharad Roy
May 2, 2014

This Question can also be done by applying log (base 5) both sides .

I don't think so. Please explain.

Sam Cheung - 6 years, 11 months ago

how may we?

esha aslam - 6 years, 8 months ago

It's exactly the same with lnx and e^x..!! Yeap it can be done

Alboreno Vuka - 4 years, 7 months ago
Kyle Chui
Dec 15, 2014

wait...

5^{2x} + 5^{5} = 5^{x + 3} + 5^{x + 2}

5^{2x + 5} = 5^{2x + 5}

x = anything

Can someone tell me where I went wrong?

In response to Kyle Chui. The property you used works for products and not for sums of powers. I mean

5 a × 5 b = 5 a + b 5^a {\times} 5^b = 5^{a+b}

but in general

5 a + 5 b 5 a + b 5^a + 5^b \not= 5^{a+b} .

Andrea Palma - 6 years, 2 months ago

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