Bounding A Triangle

Geometry Level 4

For a > 0 a> 0 , the above diagram shows the vertical line x = a x=a bounds a triangle with the lines y = 2 x 1 y=2x-1 and y = x 2 + 1 y = -\frac x2 + 1 .

If the constraint a > 0 a>0 is relaxed, then there is another possible value of a a such that the enclosed area of the new triangle is also 5.

If the sum of these two values of a a can be expressed as B C \dfrac BC , where B B and C C are coprime positive integers, find B + C B+C .


The answer is 13.

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5 solutions

Pranshu Gaba
Oct 7, 2016

Relevant wiki: Area of Triangles - Shoelace Formula

Let P , Q P, Q and R R denote the coordinate of the intersecting points between the 3 straight lines, then

  • P P satisfy the equations { y = 2 x 1 y = x 2 + 1 \begin{cases} y=2x-1 \\ y = -\frac x2 + 1 \end{cases} .
  • Q Q satisfy the equations { y = x 2 + 1 x = a \begin{cases} y=-\frac x2+1 \\ x=a \end{cases} .
  • R R satisfy the equations { y = 2 x 1 x = a \begin{cases} y=2x-1 \\ x=a \end{cases} .

Solving these system of equations separately gives P = ( 4 5 , 3 5 ) P = \left(\dfrac45, \dfrac35\right) , Q = ( 2 2 a , a ) Q = (2-2a, a) and R = ( a + 1 2 , a ) R = \left( \dfrac {a+1}2 , a \right) .

Applying the shoelace formula gives

5 = A = 1 2 det 4 / 5 3 / 5 1 2 2 a a 1 ( a + 1 ) / 2 a 1 . 5 = A = \dfrac12 \det \begin{vmatrix} 4/5 & 3/5 & 1 \\ 2-2a & a & 1 \\ (a+1)/2 & a & 1 \end{vmatrix} \; .

Expanding and simplifying this equation gives 25 a 2 40 a 84 = 0 25a^2 - 40a - 84 = 0 .

By Vieta's formula , the sum of these two values of a a is ( 40 25 ) = 8 5 - \left( \dfrac{-40}{25}\right) = \dfrac85 . Our answer is 8 + 5 = 13 8+5=\boxed{13} .

The simplest one is to say that the other triangle would be the one congruent to the bounded triangle on the other side of origin,since length of perpendicular has to be same a-(4/5)=(4/5)+|a1| a-|a1|=(8/5) Now a-|a1| is the sum of two values of a,h hence the ans could be written as mentioned

Did it that way too (after starting with unneeded equations...), x = 4/5 is the intersection of the two lines. This does not even depend of the area of the triangles being 5, it's always true for a > 8/5 , and the triangles are right triangles.

michael de seguin - 4 years, 8 months ago

I also realised that afterwards, when I had posted my solution. This really is the simplest way, and actually it was not necessary to tell that A=5. I could have just written that the areas are equal.

Tarmo Taipale - 4 years, 8 months ago
Kai Ott
Oct 9, 2016

Calculus solution: Let the two lines intersect at x=s. 2 s 1 = 0.5 s + 1 s = 0.8 2s-1= -0.5s+1 \rightarrow s=0.8 The area of the triangle by integrals is s a y 1 y 2 d x = s a 2.5 x 2 d x = [ 1.25 x 2 2 x ] s a = 5 \displaystyle \int_s^a y_1 - y_2\mathrm{d}x = \int_s^a 2.5x-2\mathrm{d}x = [1.25x^2-2x]_s^a = 5 1.25 a 2 2 a 4.2 = 0 a = 0.8 ± 4 \rightarrow 1.25a^2 - 2a - 4.2 = 0 \rightarrow a = 0.8 \pm 4 . The sum of the two possible values for a is 1.6 = 16 10 = 8 5 1.6 = \frac{16}{10} = \frac{8}{5} Thus B + C = 8 + 5 = 13 B + C = 8 + 5 =13

Nice! This solution is short and easy to understand (at least for those who know calculus).

Tarmo Taipale - 4 years, 8 months ago

Hold on, can you still put minus in front of the "0.5" where you calculate the point of intersection?

You got the right value of s and the right answer however.

Tarmo Taipale - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Oh sorry, you're right. Fixed it :)

Kai Ott - 4 years, 8 months ago

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Now, it looks perfect :)

Tarmo Taipale - 4 years, 8 months ago
Tarmo Taipale
Oct 2, 2016

First, let's find the point where the lines y = 2 x 1 y=2x-1 and y = 1 2 y=-\frac{1}{2} intersect:

2 x 1 = 1 2 + 1 2x-1=-\frac{1}{2}+1

5 2 x = 2 \frac{5}{2}x=2

x = 4 5 x=\frac{4}{5}

Now we know that the lines intersect when x = 4 5 x=\frac{4}{5} . It turns out that the triangle's height towards the vertical line is h = a 4 5 h=|a-\frac{4}{5}| , and the vertical side's length is s = 2 a 1 ( 1 2 a + 1 ) = 5 2 a 2 s=|2a-1-(-\frac{1}{2}a+1)|=|\frac{5}{2}a-2| .

The absolute values are:

When a > 4 5 a>\frac{4}{5} :

a 4 5 = a 4 5 |a-\frac{4}{5}|=a-\frac{4}{5} and 5 2 a 2 = 5 2 a 2 |\frac{5}{2}a-2|=\frac{5}{2}a-2 .

When a < 4 5 a<\frac{4}{5} :

a 4 5 = a + 4 5 |a-\frac{4}{5}|=-a+\frac{4}{5} and 5 2 a 2 = 5 2 a + 2 |\frac{5}{2}a-2|=-\frac{5}{2}a+2 .

When a = 4 5 a=\frac{4}{5} :

a 4 5 = 0 |a-\frac{4}{5}|=0 and 5 2 a 2 = 0 |\frac{5}{2}a-2|=0 .

The area of the triangle is A = h s 2 A=\frac{hs}{2} .

When a > 4 5 a>\frac{4}{5} :

A = ( a 4 5 ) × ( 5 2 a 2 ) 2 A=\frac{(a-\frac{4}{5})\times(\frac{5}{2}a-2)}{2}

When a < 4 5 a<\frac{4}{5} :

A = ( a + 4 5 ) × ( 5 2 a + 2 ) 2 = ( a 4 5 ) × ( 5 2 a 2 ) 2 A=\frac{(-a+\frac{4}{5})\times(-\frac{5}{2}a+2)}{2}=\frac{(a-\frac{4}{5})\times(\frac{5}{2}a-2)}{2}

Which means that A is always

A = ( a 4 5 ) × ( 5 2 a 2 ) 2 = 5 4 a 2 2 a + 4 5 A=\frac{(a-\frac{4}{5})\times(\frac{5}{2}a-2)}{2}=\frac{5}{4}a^2-2a+\frac{4}{5}

We get the equation:

5 4 a 2 2 a + 4 5 = 5 \frac{5}{4}a^2-2a+\frac{4}{5}=5

5 4 a 2 2 a 21 5 = 0 \frac{5}{4}a^2-2a-\frac{21}{5}=0

25 a 2 40 a 84 = 0 25a^2-40a-84=0

a = 40 ( + / ) 4 0 2 + 4 × 25 × 84 50 a=\frac{40(+/-)\sqrt{40^2+4\times25\times84}}{50}

We get:

a 1 + a 2 = 40 + 4 0 2 + 4 × 25 × 84 50 + 40 4 0 2 + 4 × 25 × 84 50 = 80 50 = 8 5 a_1+a_2=\frac{40+\sqrt{40^2+4\times25\times84}}{50}+\frac{40-\sqrt{40^2+4\times25\times84}}{50}=\frac{80}{50}=\frac{8}{5} .

Thus, b = 8 b=8 and c = 5 c=5 , and b + c = 8 + 5 = 13 b+c=8+5=\boxed{13} .

25a^2 - 40a - 84 = 0 a1+a2 = 40/25 = 8/5

Chuen-Wei Chen - 4 years, 8 months ago

The sides intersect at the vertex where 2x-1=-1/2x+1, that is when x=4/5.
So the length of altitude of the triangle from this vertex=(a-4/5).
So the foot of the other altitude has x-coordinate={4/5-(a-4/5)}=(8/5-a) is the other value of a.
So sum of two value of a=a+{8/5-a}=8/5=B/C.
So B+C=8+5= 13 \Huge\ \ \color{#D61F06}{13}



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